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Muslim Soldier-Jihadis Disobey Order To Salute Austrian Flag
2006-03-22
Austria: Muslim Soldiers Refuse to Salute Flag
From the desk of Paul Belien on Tue, 2006-03-21

Last week three Muslim conscripts of the Austrian army refused to salute the Austrian flag because this was incompatible with their faith. The Austrian paper Die Presse (18 March) reported that three soldiers of the Maria Theresia barracks, where most of the 1,000 Muslim soldiers serve, refused to salute the flag at a parade and instead turned their backs on it. The soldiers were not disciplined. However, an imam was summoned to issue a fatwa stating that Muslims are allowed to salute the Austrian flag.

Austrian Army officers have complained that Muslim conscripts – about 3,5% of the Austrian armed forces – are unable to do most jobs because they have permission to pray 5 times a day, no matter what job they are performing at the time. Some who attend Friday Prayers stay away for the rest of the day.

Following the incident the Austrian defense minister Günther Platter announced that the army will engage imams as permanent chaplains in order to mediate future conflicts. Die Presse suggests that it would be better to follow the example of the Austrian police and appoint Muslim officers to command Muslim recruits.
If Muslims can't and won't serve with the loyalty and respect worthy of soldiers, then they should get the boot.
Posted by:Listen to Dogs

#10  Flush, mate
Posted by: Captain America   2006-03-22 16:25  

#9  Latrine duty...24/7. If they want to act like asses, let'em play in shit.

No army can function without discipline and loyalty. These SOB's should have been used as an example, not coddled. Pitiful, pitiful.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat   2006-03-22 14:40  

#8  Muslims have finally found a way to break through the gates of Vienna. Tenacious lot, to be sure.
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2006-03-22 14:40  

#7  I'm sorry if I ramble on and always say the same things
5089 Never complain - never explain.
Posted by: 6   2006-03-22 14:07  

#6  Maria Theresia....there was an SS division by that name.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2006-03-22 11:22  

#5  The Roman Empire began to lose when the rank and file of their army became mostly foreigners. And, they were paid soldiers, not conscripts.
This situation will not right itself. There will be bloodshed, especially in France. France has disillusioned itself with an extremely successful Forign Legion all these years. These guys were hardened mercenary soldiers and remained loyal.
What they have today is a question mark.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-03-22 09:49  

#4  I think a much better alternative would be to give them Sikh officers and NCOs. With significantly relaxed disciplinary restrictions. Sikhs would know how to persuade recalcitrant Moslems, even if it did result in a higher than normal rate of training accidents.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-03-22 09:28  

#3  I'm sorry if I ramble on and always say the same things, but from what I've read and heard, more than 20% of french army is now muslim (that's a Shirakian feature, not a bug), with about 28% in the Army, and up to 40% in some shock units like paratroopers.
According to a past internal poll, army brass found out that only 1 in 10 of muslim soldiers would "fight for France" (same ratio than the general "youths" population, as confirmed by a schools survey) and against "their" country (Algeria, Tunisia, possibly any muslim country?).
This also poses many cohesion and disciplinary problems (that's what happens when you draw from the 'hoods), but main trend had been so far folding and establishing the first imams in the french army (which didn't exist even back then when it had a large muslim troop back in WWII or the Algeria war, during which more algerians fought for France, *very* bravely btw, than against it).

Bottom line is : where do their loyalty is? and that's the same question for theses austrian draftees, for that POS who fragged his comrades before GWII, for the various translaters working for the FBI or the Guantanamo interrogators, for the US muslim prison chaplains, for the Cair talking heads, etc, etc...
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-03-22 09:26  

#2  3 conscripts defy them and they completely fold. Remarkable.

Yes, indeed, they need to bring in imams, promote Muslims to officers, and give them command positions. Yep. That'll fix everything. Brilliant. If the Austrian Defense Ministry is any indicator, the Austrians will obviously make superior dhimmis.
Posted by: Creater Crater3500   2006-03-22 08:30  

#1  If Muslims can't and won't serve with the loyalty and respect worthy of soldiers, then they should get the boot.
Guess ypou missed yhe part about them beibf "Conscripts". (Think Draftees)
They WANT out.
I say the best thing to do is Jail them at hard labor for 90 days, make them learn you do NOT tell your superiors No.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-03-22 08:22  

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