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Rushdie sez West under-estimates the sexual fear of Islamists
2006-01-19
British author Salman Rushdie said the West had failed to grasp the extent to which Islamic extremism was rooted in men's fear of women's sexuality.
I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that Islam isn't a religion, but a sexual fetish.
Rushdie told German weekly magazine Stern that his latest novel, "Shalimar the Clown", dealt with the deep anxiety felt among many Islamic men about female sexual freedom and lost honor. When asked if the book drew a link between "Islamic terror and damaged male honor", Rushdie said he saw it as a crucial, and often overlooked, point.
I think we've pretty much reached concensus here that it is crucial. We probably started arriving at that conclusion when we saw out of the left eye the Islamists jumping up and down and rolling their eyes and waving guns while they hollered about their "dignity and honor," while out the right eye we saw the Arab and Pak husbands/brothers/cousins/relatives/passersby either slaughtering women and girls in horrible manners, or slicing their noses or lips off, or splashing them with acid, or simply beating them to a pulp regularly, also in the name of "honor." Bill Quick, a long time ago, opened the discussion on "honor-shame" cultures, and his observations still remain valid.

"The Western-Christian world view deals with the issues of guilt and salvation, a concept that is completely unimportant in the East because there is no original sin and no savior," he said, in comments printed in German. "Instead, great importance is given to 'honor'. I consider that to be problematic. But of course it is underestimated how many Islamists consciously or unconsciously attempt to restore lost honor."
Not to mention the differences in the definitions of "honor." Islamic "honor" is not the same as Western honor. I'd also add for discussion the closely related lack of recognition on the part of proper Islamists of the concept of romantic love...
When asked why he probed the issues in his new novel in the context of a love triangle, he said: "It has a lot to do with sexual fear of women."
We're discussing a religion where it's haram for married folks to look at each other's pee-pees...
Rushdie, 58, said that much of the anger toward the West was provoked by that split on sexual issues. "(It is) because Western societies do not veil their women. Because they do not defuse this potential danger," he said.
And men aren't expected to be able to deal with the danger.
The Indian-born Rushdie, who lives in New York with his fourth wife Padma Lakshmi, told Stern that he has lived without security protection for seven or eight years. "I go where I please," he said. "I went to India often in the last few years, which I enjoyed."
Posted by:Dan Darling

#10  Well, I can say that it is common in Saudi. It's no UL there. For example, it is common knowledge in al Khobar, in the news yesterday for the kid with the offensive car window sticker, that after last prayer the homosexuals congregate in the al Tamimi Safeway parking lot. Not sure when it began, exactly (didn't see it in 1992, but did in 2000), but most of the expats learned to get their shopping done during daylight hours - usually during that (approx) 1 hr gap between the 4th and 5th prayers - or wait until the "weekend" of Thur & Fri. I saw this little social phenom myself and asked Saudi acquaintences what was up. They laughed and told me it was the local meat market. I presume the "cops" know, too, but must leave it alone unless there's something flaunted.

BTW, these guys were the lucky ones - good jobs at Aramco, married, they made it. Untrue for those without their good fortune, the vast majority, who will not be able to wed until their mid-30's - a fact also confirmed by these guys. It's good to be King and it's good to be connected - which a job at Aramco requires.

The hypocrisy is beyond obvious and homosexuality is as common there as hetersexuality is here in the US. I ran across a couple of guys in the hallway at the Gulf Hotel in Manama, Bahrain - there were couches conveniently distributed at various points in the hallways. They didn't skip a stroke.

Same as the ritual that developed at the mall with the girls dropping little pieces of paper with their cell numbers through the atrium opening to the boys below. That's not puishable by death, of course, but it, too, is obviously against Shari'a.

Been there, seen it myself.

In Saudi, it's a fact, no Urban Legend.
Posted by: .com   2006-01-19 23:12  

#9  So there's no such thing as gay middle-easterners!
Posted by: Rafael   2006-01-19 23:07  

#8  TAF: Buggery has always been a feature of middle eastern Arab male culture. Lack of access to females often means that young Arab males play with each other, often finding in other males their first sexual experiences.

My feeling is that this isn't widespread, and more or less an urban legend tied to the fact that many Middle Easterners of the same gender hold hands - something we see as having sexual significance that isn't in the Middle Eastern context. Middle Easterners take heterosexuality seriously - the punishment for sodomy in many Muslim countries is death. And that's just the law. In many Muslim countries, private killings of gays in gruesome ways isn't something the Taliban invented.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-01-19 22:46  

#7  mhw: bwhahahahahahaa
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-01-19 20:27  

#6  The Indian-born Rushdie, who lives in New York with his fourth wife Padma Lakshmi

I thought Padma died while giving birth to Luke and Leia
Posted by: mhw   2006-01-19 15:06  

#5  thanks for not giving us too much information Mr. Fliegerabwehrkanonen.

»;-)
Posted by: RD   2006-01-19 10:45  

#4  Perhaps a wider distribution of "Brokeback Mountain" will help quell the deep confusion in the male Arab world.

Buggery has always been a feature of middle eastern Arab male culture. Lack of access to females often means that young Arab males play with each other, often finding in other males their first sexual experiences.
Posted by: The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen   2006-01-19 10:00  

#3  No fear on his part. Padma Lakshmi is HOT.
Posted by: eLarson   2006-01-19 08:14  

#2  hold on hold on, shouldnt Rushdie be dead by now???? WTF they've been trying to get him for as long as my mind can remember. they cant even get an Author??? lol lol
Posted by: Shep UK   2006-01-19 05:31  

#1  bomb em with porn?? The mark 1 xxx clusterfck munition showering the target with porno vids!
Posted by: Shep UK   2006-01-19 05:29  

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