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Home Front: Culture Wars
And it's over, "Over There"
2005-11-03
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - FX has opted not to renew veteran producer Steven Bochco's Iraq War drama series "Over There," citing lackluster ratings, the cable network said Tuesday. "I'm deeply proud of 'Over There,' which was beautifully produced, acted, written and directed," FX president and general manager John Landgraf Landgraf said. "The series was arguably the most critically acclaimed new television show of the year, a fact which made the decision not to renew it all the more difficult."
"The stupid viewers just didn't agree with my vision"

Despite a strong debut that drew 4.1 million viewers, "Over There" tailed off through the rest of its 13-episode run, averaging just 2.1 million overall.
"It's dead, Jim"
Posted by:Steve

#16  Careful Robert. Several of us here are big fans of Star Wars, but want to beat the hell out of Lucas mightily for the modern 3 starwars movies.
You could cause the complete loss of bandwidth for Rantburg here from the ranting over Lucas ;)
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-11-03 17:44  

#15  I liked the show,damn.
Posted by: raptor   2005-11-03 16:38  

#14  We used to watch it all the time in here during Happy Hour. It was the basis for a couple of my stories. Looked pretty realistic to me with all the shooting and the stuff blowing up and all that. At least that's what somebody told the CNN guy I was just talking to.
Let's have another, Achmed. And see what the CNN guy wants.
Posted by: Grizzled War Correspondent   2005-11-03 16:28  

#13  maybe we are tired of being preached to by a little clique of hypocrites.
Posted by: 2b   2005-11-03 16:25  

#12  Somewhere around Star Wars time frame the messages got so depressing that people were releaved to just watch Luke fight evil and win.

Unfortunately, Lucas bought into the Hollywood mythos and started giving us "Newt Gunray" and such crap.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-11-03 16:17  

#11  instead of Over There it's now just "over."
Posted by: Mike   2005-11-03 16:12  

#10  Factually challenged is probably too good a sobriquet for the writers of this program. The only resemblance it bore to the war in Iraq was sand. It was Hollywood's version of Vietnam in desert camo. My son and his marine buddies said that it was the funniest thing they had seen since the Army training films they saw in bootcamp.
Posted by: RWV   2005-11-03 15:48  

#9  Hupeasing Anginert3023, that is one of the hallmarks of good sci fi, it dates back a lot farther than Serling. HG Wells book War of the Worlds was about Colonialism/Imperialism and he made his point in a way that people were entertained instead of immediately turned off by an unwelcome message.

Old Star Trek did that a lot as well. Its ham-handed at times but at least they tried. Somewhere around Star Wars time frame the messages got so depressing that people were releaved to just watch Luke fight evil and win.
Posted by: rjschwarz (no T!)   2005-11-03 14:58  

#8  Rod Serling learned you can hide contemporary issues in a scifi suit and get away with it. Change the setting to a contemporary environment and you loose the sponsors and the audience. From the old movie days, if you want to send a message use Western Union.
Posted by: Hupeasing Anginert3023   2005-11-03 14:27  

#7  Anti-war types are not likely to watch an anti-war show about a war they hate. MASH only worked because it was anti-Vietnam in subtext, but actually about Korea.
Posted by: rjschwarz (no T!)   2005-11-03 13:39  

#6  I actually am a fan of it and we set it up on TIVO so I watch it when I get around to it.
It is factually challenged, but so was NYPD Blue and look at the hardware that racked up.
I would say that as a casual history buff, I thought more about deeply about the current war for having watched the show, and actually think it portrayed some aspects rather positively of our actually serving soldiers. I think they brushed upon controversial subject matter from all perspectives and did a decent job for an entertainment show.
More real than a bunch of knucleheads supoosedly living the "Real World" in Austin. Somebody should be fined for that waste of airspace.
Posted by: Capsu78   2005-11-03 13:32  

#5  It was still on the air?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-11-03 12:49  

#4  The moonbat left will no doubt blame the series' cancellation on Karl Rove or the international Zionist conspiracy.
Posted by: Mike   2005-11-03 12:23  

#3  Good. 'cus over there was about as acurate as the NYT.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-11-03 12:18  

#2  Don't have to watch it when you do it LIVE!!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY   2005-11-03 12:16  

#1  "Welcome to the SUK" Jim.
Posted by: Besoeker   2005-11-03 12:07  

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