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Iraq
Using Lawyers To Identify The Enemy
2005-10-26
Spc. Coby Harris was spitting Copenhagen tobacco into the dirt as he flew his plane over a desert road looking for any sign of insurgents. "We’re just checking it out, making sure nothing is moving around," said Harris, a 20-year-old Ohio native, as he sat on a rocky hilltop at night, staring at a hand-held screen and nudging a joystick lightly with his thumb.

Several hours before dawn, Harris and Spc. David Sinclair, 29, of Atlanta, were out navigating one of the latest tools in the fight against roadside bombs: a three-foot long, radio-controlled airplane. Known as a Raven, the unmanned aerial surveillance device is helping soldiers keep watch over a treacherous stretch of rural road where bombs killed one U.S. and two Iraqi soldiers in the week before the Oct. 15 elections.

The Oct. 11 death of Staff Sgt. Matthew Kimmel, 30, a Special Forces soldier from Paxton, Ind., set in motion the two-week focus on the road, a secondary route used to access polling sites in the Muqdadiyah region. In addition to the Raven flights, soldiers from Task Force 1-30 have used a mix of Bradley patrols, scout teams with snipers, and Apache helicopter sweeps to root out the small band of insurgents behind the attacks. "We are hunting them," said Maj. Marc "Dewey" Boberg, the chief operations officer for the 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment at Forward Operating Base Normandy. "We’re going to find them and eliminate the cell."

The operation killed five insurgents last week after soldiers spotted them digging holes in the road or setting roadside bombs after curfew, soldiers said. A sniper’s bullet killed one man. Heavy artillery fired from the base here killed the others in two separate assaults after surveillance teams targeted the men and relayed their location to the commanders, soldiers said.

In one case last week, Lt. Col. Roger Cloutier called an Army lawyer at nearby FOB Warhorse to ask whether a man seen behaving suspiciously after curfew should be shot. The sniper posted near the road retained radio contact with the commander through his platoon leader and tried to keep the suspicious man in his sites while the shot was approved. The Army lawyer ultimately approved the shot, but the process took nearly 10 minutes and by that time the insurgent had disappeared from site. "I don’t want to kill anybody unless I’m absolutely sure," Cloutier said afterward.

The road under surveillance was completely silent before dawn on Monday as Harris and Sinclair watched through the infrared camera. Soldiers in Iraq began widespread use of the Raven last year. It requires line-of-sight contact, making hilltop launch sites and navigation ideal. The images captured by the small aircraft can be relayed to commanders at the tactical operations center if needed.

After finding dozens of roadside bombs on the road before the elections, soldiers have seen none this week. After killing five insurgents last week, soldiers have seen virtually no activity there this week, Boberg said. It’s unclear if all those responsible for the recent roadside bombs are dead or whether they were just temporarily scared away. "There’s a certain fear factor for them — they know someone is watching them," Boberg said.
Posted by:Anonymoose

#10  "Mr. Jackal, report to Court 2B..."
Posted by: Frank G   2005-10-26 21:27  

#9  As I was saying, I can understand the rules being different when we are occupying an enemy state from when were are helping defend a semi-friendly state.

[I had to quit because I got called; they wanted 225 people to get a jury of 12 (+2). I wasn't one of them.]
Posted by: Jackal   2005-10-26 20:09  

#8  i am still wondering about the "...digging holes in the road or setting roadside bombs after curfew," phrase; does that mean ther are approved hole digging times???
/sarcasm off
Posted by: USN, ret.   2005-10-26 14:22  

#7  From the abrupt ending of Jackals post, it looks like they did.
Posted by: Grunter   2005-10-26 13:13  

#6  Careful or they'll take away your technology.
Posted by: MunkarKat   2005-10-26 12:49  

#5  Jackal, you sly dog. Blogging from court! Heh.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-10-26 10:26  

#4  I can kinda-sorta understand this. Iraq is a sovereign nation with a constitution and its own army and police force. I love dead terrorists and supporters, and this policy is of course way to constricting, but I
Posted by: Jackal (from jury room)   2005-10-26 10:23  

#3  Got a nice desk back at the Pentagon for Lt. Col. Cloutier where he can't get anybody killed?
Posted by: tu3031   2005-10-26 08:24  

#2  What the hell kinda Colonel(s) is the USDOD making these days - just tell the sniper to shoot to wound in the foot/legs iff the man refuses to stop, shoot to kill or wid discretion iff he's armed. Furthermore, where's the sniper's spotter in all this as you don't send a sniper out by his lonesome - one man doth NOT a sniper- or recce- team make. You don't need lawyers as snipers are trained to wound, as they are also trained to shoot as warning shots wid out either wounding or killing.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2005-10-26 04:43  

#1  The Army lawyer ultimately approved the shot, but the process took nearly 10 minutes and by that time the insurgent had disappeared from site. "I don’t want to kill anybody unless I’m absolutely sure," Cloutier said afterward.

Failure to take military action when neccesary will get a commander sacked in no time. Why doe this JAgGoff fella get a pass on his own imcomptence?
Posted by: badanov   2005-10-26 00:27  

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