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Hamdan whines appeals to USSC
2005-08-09
Lawyers for a Guantanamo detainee asked the Supreme Court on Monday to consider blocking military tribunals for terror suspects, and overturn what they called an extreme ruling by high-court nominee John Roberts and two other judges on the panel. Roberts was on a three-judge federal appeals court panel that last month ruled against Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who once was al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's driver. Hamdan's attorneys told justices that the appeals court gave the White House authority ``to circumvent the federal courts and time-tested limits on the executive.'' ``No decision, by any court, in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has gone this far,'' wrote Hamdan attorney Neal Katyal, a law professor at Georgetown University.
Gee, the Court of Appeals didn't think so.
The Pentagon maintains it has the authority to hold military commissions, or tribunals, for terror suspects like Hamdan who were captured overseas and are now being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. A lower-court judge ruled against the government, but Roberts and two other judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit disagreed. The appeals court said last month that the 1949 Geneva Conventions governing prisoners of war does not apply to the al-Qaida network and its members. Katyal maintained that the decision ``radically extended legal precedents set during conventional wars.''
Seeing as the Geneva Convention applied to conventional wars, it's not much of a stretch to say that it applies only to conventional wars, now does it?
The court ``held that the president has the power to decide how a detainee is classified, ... how he is treated, what criminal process he will face, what rights he will have, who will judge him, how he will be judged, upon what crimes he will be sentenced, and how the sentence will be carried out,'' Katyal wrote. Hamdan ``asks simply for a trial that comports with this nation's traditions, Constitution, and commitment to the laws of war, such as a court-martial,'' Katyal said in the appeal.
Not that he'd ever comply with the Geneva Conventions, even as he begs for its protection.
Posted by:Steve White

#6  The supremes seldom take up a case decided on appeal from the 3rd district.

Should they run to the loony side, and Roberts sits on the court, he would well have to be recused from the case.
Posted by: Captain America   2005-08-09 16:59  

#5  Can anyone remember a case where a judge promoted to the USSC got to issue an opinion on the same case he had previously faced at the circuit level? Because the main argument in front of the Supremes would be that the lower court erred in it's ruling. I would think the Dems would be grabbing this story and running.
Posted by: john   2005-08-09 15:23  

#4  Ummmm....no. I don't believe that dirtbag Yemenis in Cuba qualify for US constitutional protections.

But thanks for playing.
Posted by: mojo   2005-08-09 10:47  

#3  The last Geneva convention the US adopted was right after WW2 I thought AzCat? Lots of those "conventions" that the EU and left get on about we never signed. So they don't apply, Doesn't stop the TRANZIs from getting a frothed up about it.

I don't think this guy has a rats chance in hell of getting the SCOTUS to take up his case, but we will see.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-08-09 06:14  

#2  I'm not so sure about that. The last opinion of the DC Cir. in Hamdan's case finished with a rather glib assumption that the president was a "competnent authority" under the relevant statute and a 2/1 split on whether Article 3 of the latest Geneva Convention applies to al Qaeda. Those are *exactly* the sorts of questions the Supreme Court exists to clarify.
Posted by: AzCat   2005-08-09 02:27  

#1  I seriously doubt the supremes would take this case, with or without Roberts.
Posted by: Captain America   2005-08-09 01:00  

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