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| âLondon, Tel Aviv blasts connectedâ |
| 2005-07-12 |
| Contradictory with yesterday's report that explosives came from the Balkans. German newspaper: Explosive material used by British terrorist who blew himself up on Tel Aviv beachfront in 2003 very likely the same as that used by terrorists who staged London attacks last week, Mossad tells Brits By Roee Nahmias and Ronen Bodoni TEL AVIV â The terror attack in London last week may be tied to a suicide bombing on Tel Avivâs beachfront in April 2003, German newspaper Bild am Sonntag reported Monday. According to the paper, Mossad officials informed British security authorities that the explosive material used in the Tel Aviv attack on Mikeâs Place pub was apparently also utilized to stage the series of bombings in London on Thursday. Moreover, the Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast, the paper reports. As a result, it was impossible to take any action to prevent the blasts. âThey reached us too late for us to do something about it,â a Mossad source is quoted as saying. âVery powerful explosiveâ According to the German report, the Mossad relayed an analysis of the explosives used in the Mikeâs Place attack to British security officials. Mossad sources are quoted as saying there is âhigh likelihoodâ the explosives used in Tel Aviv were the same ones used in London. However, the story makes it unclear whether the Mossad is involved in any way in the investigation into the London bombings. After analyzing the explosive material used in the Mikeâs Place attack, the Mossad concluded it was produced in China and later smuggled into Britain, the paper reports. The explosives were apparently stashed by terrorists connected to al-Qaeda who were able to evade raids by British security forces. According to the newspaper, Mossad Chief Meir Dagan said the explosive in question is very powerful, and âmuch more lethal than plastic explosives and can be smuggled undetected due to its composition. The Mossad was also able to determine the substance was developed and produced at the Chinese ZDF arms factory, located about 65 kilometers (about 40 miles) from Beijing, the paper reports. 3 people murdered at Mikeâs Place The Mikeâs Place attack claimed the lives of three people, Yanai Weiss, 46, Ran Baron, 24, and Caroline Dominique Hess, 29. The bombing was carried out by two terrorists, Asif Mohammed Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif, who were recruited by Hamas in Britain. The two managed to enter Israel using their British passports. Hanif blew himself up at the pub, but Sharif failed to detonate his explosive belt and fled the scene. A few weeks later, his body was washed ashore in Tel Aviv. The terroristsâ relatives were detained in Britain in the wake of the attack on suspicion they knew of the plot and did nothing to prevent the attacks. The relativesâ trial ended in July of last year, with the court ordering a retrial for Sharifâs sister and brother. Meanwhile, Sharifâs wife was cleared of the charges against her. |
| Posted by:anonymous5089 |
| #8 What I am seeing in "serioustopics.com" is one bunch making a big hue and cry about what's wrong with the communication system in the subways that they didn't figure out it was a bomb right away... Talk about sidetracked. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2005-07-12 21:22 |
| #7 Bulldog, how is the BBC's redating of the word "terrorist" playing? I think that stupidity can be as provocative as weakness. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2005-07-12 17:15 |
| #6 The hard core won't admit they're wrong but some of the sheep who have followed them without thinking for themselves will start to realise what idiots they've been. It's easy to underestimate the number of people who chose to adopt their politics according to what's considered fashionable. The alluring moral equivalence mannequin suddenly has no clothes (perhaps they've been blown off). Apologies for the abuse of metaphors. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2005-07-12 16:28 |
| #5 Bulldog: They won't "wake up" to their hypocrisy. If they did, their world would come crashing down. So, they'll split hairs, rationalize, deflect and otherwise explain away how Israel's situation is different from the one in England. Or they'll explain why the UK deserved it. Or they'll help you understand that these "terrorists" are depraved, while the "militants" in Israel are oppressed. You're asking them to admit they are wrong -- to admit that ANY suicide bombings are unacceptable. And they can't get there from here. They've already become comfortable with believing that there are good reasons to kill innocent civilians, and they can't undo that. The psychological term for it is "cognitive dissonance." I tend to think of them simply as weak minded sheep. |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2005-07-12 16:23 |
| #4 One of the positive spin-offs of the bombings, especially now the boomers seem to have been positively identified as suicide bombers, is the effect this will have on all those arseholes and fuckwits who have spent the past five years or so condoning or excusing exactly the same actions taking place in Israel. The fact that one bomb went off on a London bus just adds irony. I'm assuming a lot of (sometimes unwitting political fashion-victim) anti-Semites are waking up to the contemptible hypocrisy of their previous stance. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2005-07-12 14:58 |
| #3 quote me? woo hoo! royalties!!! I'm gonna start shopping for a boat this weekend! ;o) |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2005-07-12 14:21 |
| #2 Thank you, Planet Dan. You crystallized that thought for me. I plan to quote you at the first opportunity. :-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-07-12 14:16 |
| #1 So the very same people who hate Joooos also hate Brits. The implications of that are huge, if one dares to consider them. It's the bankrupt culture and religion of islam that spawns murder and atrocity. Not the Jews. Not the west. The left won't make the connection. They can't. It would mean having to rethink the carnage they've condoned in Israel. They're too invested in believing the paleos are the poor, helpless victims of Israeli oppression. Rethinking that notion would force them to conclude something significantly different. And it would destroy their world view -- of "poor" muslims, of "aggressive" Joooos, and of what's right and wrong in the war on terror. I assume, though, they will once again rationalize, minimalize and deflect such connections. Why should this attack on the west by islamic terrorists be different? |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2005-07-12 13:03 |