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US Military Holding 5 "Americans" for Iraq Activity
2005-07-06
WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. military is holding five U.S. citizens suspected of insurgent activities in Iraq, a Pentagon spokesman said Wednesday. They were captured separately and don't appear to have ties to one another, spokesman Bryan Whitman said. He declined to identify them, citing a Pentagon policy that prohibits identification of detainees.
Three of those being detained are Iraqi-Americans; another is an Iranian-American; the fifth is a Jordanian-American, Whitman said. The three Iraqi-Americans were captured in April, May and June, officials said. The Iranian-American was captured May 17, one official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the cases.
Additional: The Jordanian-American was captured in a raid late last year and is suspected of high-level ties to Abu Musab Zarqawi, the Jordanian terrorist and leading al-Qaida ally in Iraq. Officials announced his capture in March. All five are in custody at one of the three U.S.-run prisons in Iraq — Abu Ghraib, Camp Bucca or Camp Cropper, Whitman said, declining to provide their precise location. The International Committee of the Red Cross has had access to all five prisoners, Whitman said. A panel of three U.S. officers rules on whether each prisoner is properly held; that has already taken place for the Jordanian-American. Whitman did not say whether the three Iraqi-Americans or the Iranian-American have been through this process.
One of the Iraqi-Americans allegedly had knowledge of planning for an attack, and another was possibly involved in a kidnapping. The third was "engaged in suspicious activity," Whitman said, declining to be more specific. Whitman said the Iranian-American was captured with several dozen washing machine timers in his car - items that can be used as components in bombs.
Obviously he is just an innocent traveling washing machine repairman, an unjustly accused victim of profiling. Or maybe, not:


LOS ANGELES (AP) - An Iranian-born U.S. citizen who also is a Navy veteran is being held in Iraq by American forces after security officials in Baghdad reported finding a common component for improvised bombs in his taxi, according to his family. Relatives of Cyrus Kar, an aspiring filmmaker who lives in Los Angeles, said they plan to sue the government to gain his release. They say he has been cleared and there is no legal authority for his detention.
Ah, the missing "film-maker". I wondered when he'd turn up.
His family says Kar, 44, was in Iraq to film scenes for a documentary on King Cyrus the Great, founder of Persia, when he was arrested at a checkpoint in Baghdad in mid-May. He also had filmed in Iran, Tajikistan, Turkey and Afghanistan and consulted with scholars, they said.
Yes, I'll just bet he did.

They said he called them on May 24 and said he had been detained because of a misunderstanding involving a taxi driver who had been driving Kar and his cameraman around Baghdad. They last heard from him on June 28. Pentagon officials would not confirm they were holding Kar, citing a policy that prohibits the release of the identities of detainees. However, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman confirmed Wednesday that an Iranian-American is in custody in Iraq. He was captured with several dozen washing machine timers in his car - items that can be used as components in bombs, Whitman said. A defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case, said he was captured on May 17.
Four other people - three Iraqi-Americans and a Jordanian-American - with U.S. citizenship are in custody in Iraq in connection with suspected insurgent activities, Whitman said. All have gone, or will go, before a three-officer panel that determines whether they are properly held, Whitman said. No decision has been made whether the U.S. or Iraqi government will ultimately handle their cases, Whitman said.
Kar's relatives told the Los Angeles Times and The New York Times that FBI Agent John D. Wilson in Los Angeles told them weeks ago that Kar's story had checked out, that he had passed a polygraph test and that he had been cleared of any charges. "He's cleared," one of Kar's aunts, Parvin Modarress, quoted Wilson as saying, according to The New York Times. Wilson told the Los Angeles Times on Tuesday that he had met the women but would not elaborate.
Kar's relatives plan to file a lawsuit challenging Kar's continued detention. The American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California and other civil liberties lawyers are representing Kar. "Mr. Kar is now imprisoned by the United States military in Iraq without the slightest hint of legal authority," said Mark D. Rosenbaum, the ACLU's Southern California legal director. "Saddam Hussein has had more due process than Cyrus Kar," Rosenbaum said. Although Kar was born in Iran, he spent most of his childhood in California, Utah and Washington state, and served several years in the Navy, the newspapers said.
Posted by:Steve

#17  Agreed, Jan. Hyphenation should refer to 100% Americans who are proud of what they or their ancestors left behind. Dual citizenship is something else altogether -- and I say this as the child of a dual citizen (Israeli & American). Choose one, give up the other and live with the result; nothing less is acceptable.
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-07-06 22:53  

#16  Why did these idiot reporters insist on calling muslims, Americans? Muslims are muslim first and a very distant second any other nationality. They behave this way everywhere around the world!!!
Posted by: TMH   2005-07-06 21:35  

#15  Iraqi-Americans, Iranian-Americans and Jordanian-Americans.
They aren't American's in my book. You're one or the other. To be an American with Iraqi blood yes, but being a proud American you would support America and what we stand for.
Maybe if we insisted on having all Americans chant our love of country it would clear out or identify some of these guys.
Are these some of the folks interpreting for us? Scary thought.
Having allowed others from countries to come to America to be educated seems to be allowing some to study ways of penetrating what we stand for and attempting to break us down. I wish there was a better monitoring system to control who comes into the country.
Let's hear these guys tell us of their undying love of America, to sing a few bars, sorry for profiling here but some folks seem to be so hung up on materialistic stuff.
Posted by: Jan   2005-07-06 17:54  

#14  Shoot 'em, then hang 'em
Posted by: Captain America   2005-07-06 17:41  

#13  Kar...served several years in the Navy, the newspapers said.

So then he should understand the risks and the rules when wandering around a war zone, right?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-07-06 16:56  

#12  oooooo..... more likely they'll be turned over to the Iraqis ....

You're not gonna tell anyone, are ya Pappy?

On the other hand, maybe if the UN and AmInt and Teddy and Turban Dick visited then in some Iraqi joint, Gitmo would look even better!
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-06 15:06  

#11  US citizens? Though they should be treated in the same manner as any other foreign terr, the US MSM / Looneytoon outcry will be deafening, methinks.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-06 15:05  

#10  Gee...will these guys get to go to Gitmo?

No. If there's a basis to detain them, more likely they'll be turned over to the Iraqis.
Posted by: Pappy   2005-07-06 14:34  

#9  What, not everybody here carries spare washing machines timers around in their car? I just can't tell you the number of times people have pulled up next to me and said, "Hey, dude, got a washing machine timer you can lend me?"

(How fast can washing machines run, anyway? What's the record for the 100-meter washing machine dash?)
Posted by: Matt   2005-07-06 13:00  

#8  Gee...will these guys get to go to Gitmo?

And if they do, can we assume if they are killed, that they were innocent, but if they live, they must be guilty? We usta try witches that way, yes?
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-06 12:51  

#7  LOL SteveS thank gawd we still allowed to have stutter guns, long as they're at least ...ummmm, what is the legal minimum for a stutter gun?
Posted by: Shiipman   2005-07-06 12:43  

#6  Obvious profiling going on here, another sad day for the ACLU. ;-)
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-07-06 12:27  

#5  If they are jihadi then let em help sweep roadways for IED's.
Posted by: Tkat   2005-07-06 12:12  

#4  This just seems so unfair, as I'm sure anyone who is familiar with the role Cyrus the Great played in the invention of the automatic washing machine timer will agree.

Whatever happened to the principle of innocent until you commit the crime, flee the scene and engage in a standoff/shootout with the police? It's getting so you can't even hack into a website, steal credit card numbers and conspire to commit felonies without the FBI showing up on your doorstep. What a country!
Posted by: SteveS   2005-07-06 12:12  

#3  Get the information you need, then shoot them for treason. Simple, yet it won't happen.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-07-06 12:08  

#2  So the Ronery Maytag guy finally found something to fill his spare time(rs).
Posted by: .com   2005-07-06 12:02  

#1  I hope they hope they give me fair warning before identifying them. I want to have time to duct-tape my head so as to prevent it exploding when nincompoops start clammoring for their immediate release.
Posted by: Super Hose   2005-07-06 11:57  

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