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Fifth Column
MSM Campaign Paying Off
2005-06-08
For the first time since the war in Iraq began, more than half of the American public believes the fight there has not made the United States safer, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

While the focus in Washington has shifted from the Iraq conflict to Social Security and other domestic matters, the survey found that Americans continue to rank Iraq second only to the economy in importance -- and that many are losing patience with the enterprise.

Nearly three-quarters of Americans say the number of casualties in Iraq is unacceptable, while two-thirds say the U.S. military there is bogged down and nearly six in 10 say the war was not worth fighting -- in all three cases matching or exceeding the highest levels of pessimism yet recorded. More than four in 10 believe the U.S. presence in Iraq is becoming analogous to the experience in Vietnam. Was Vietnam in the question, or the answer?
Perhaps most ominous for President Bush, 52 percent said war in Iraq has not contributed to the long-term security of the United States, while 47 percent said it has. It was the first time a majority of Americans disagreed with the central notion Bush has offered to build support for war: that the fight there will make Americans safer from terrorists at home. I thought the central notion was the non-existent WMD? In late 2003, 62 percent thought the Iraq war aided U.S. security, and three months ago 52 percent thought so.


The surge in violence in Iraq since the new government took control -- 80 U.S. troops and more than 700 Iraqis died in May alone amid a rash of bombings -- has been accompanied by rising gloom about the overall fight against terrorists. By 50 percent to 49 percent, Americans approved of the way Bush is handling the campaign against terrorism, down from 56 percent approval in April, equaling the lowest rating he has earned on the issue that has consistently been his core strength with the public.

The dissipating support for the Iraq war is of potential military concern, because, as Marine Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis wrote in a note to his troops as he led them back into Iraq in February 2004, "our friendly strategic center of gravity is the will of the American people."

Some authorities on war and public opinion said the figures indicate that pessimism about the war in Iraq has reached a dangerous level. "It appears that Americans are coming to the realization that the war in Iraq is not being won and may well prove unwinnable," said retired Army Col. Andrew J. Bacevich, a professor at Boston University. "That conclusion bleeds over into a conviction that it may not have been necessary in the first place."

That is the view of poll respondent Margaret Boudreaux, 63, a casino worker living in Oakdale, La. "I don't think it's going well -- there's too much killing," she said, worrying that the Iraq invasion could move more enemies to violence. "I think that some of the people, if they could, would get revenge for what we've done."

"You hear a lot about Saddam but nothing about Osama bin Laden. I don't think he [Bush] does enough to deal with the problems of terrorism. . . . He's done a lot of talking, but we haven't seen real changes," said another poll respondent, Kathy Goyette, 54, a San Diego nurse. "People are getting through airport security with things that are unbelievable. . . . I don't think he learned from 9/11."
Posted by:Bobby

#13  Bobby, the Air Corps would get their own back in Normandy. Attempted close air support by B-17s dropped short and killed hundreds in one action before the St. Lo breakout.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-08 16:33  

#12  they need to get back to covering Michael. They are much more competent in this regard. Anyone interested in the WOT isn't paying attention to them anymore anyway.
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-08 15:49  

#11  ...journalists are "deeply saddened" about the dearth of dead Americans and the surplus of dead terrorists

Which is why we need more dead journalists.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-06-08 14:37  

#10  The only reason we are seeing this poll is that our wonderful journalists are "deeply saddened" about the dearth of dead Americans and the surplus of dead terrorists.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-08 12:41  

#9  #8 at least "free press" as defined by the current MSM.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-08 12:14  

#8  I'm beginning to suspect that a free press and a free country are incompatible in time of war.

I consider myself a student of WW II, but just found out this week that 8 US C-47's full of paratroopers were shot down by friendly fire in Operation Husky (Sicily). That's why the Normandy planes had black and white stripes. Can you imagine the uproar had that been known at the time? Pilots, co-pilots, 160-odd paratroopers! Not to mention the equipment! Why, the gunners should've been court-martialed, generals demoted, the war halted! George Marshall would've been forced out, no Marshall Plan, no demise of the USSR - the mind reels!
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-08 12:13  

#7  B-a-R---In WW2, after the heavy Marine casualties on Betio in the Tarawa campaign, there was concern about the public turning anger against the govt.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-06-08 11:26  

#6  Wouldn't have made it past Normandy, BaR.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-06-08 11:08  

#5  Nearly three-quarters of Americans say the number of casualties in Iraq is unacceptable,..

Good thing these people most likely weren't alive during WW2. After Iwo Jima, they'd probably have demanded that we start negotiating.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-06-08 10:17  

#4  8.2 on The Metre 'O Doom. Would have been better if they'd done some graveside interviews to ask the attendees if they miss the departed.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-08 09:53  

#3  An ABC NEWS poll you say?

How were the questions frames?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-06-08 09:00  

#2  Drip, drip, drip, drip, ...
Posted by: Dragon Fly   2005-06-08 08:32  

#1  The journey of a thousand li starts with one step.
Posted by: gromgoru   2005-06-08 08:21  

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