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Briton freed from Guantanamo prison tells European rights body of U.S. abuse
2004-12-18
A bit more, just for the fun of it...
Oh boy, my first sympathy meter story. I am so excited :).
A Briton released from the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, told Europe's top human rights body Friday he was beaten, shackled, kept in a cramped cage and fed rotten food as part of "systematic abuse" in custody.
He's lucky. We've still got chain gangs in some places...
Jamal al-Harith's testimony before a Council of Europe panel came as part of an inquiry by the body into human rights abuses at the U.S. prison camp to be made public in a report due out early next year. Reading from a 10-page statement, al-Harith described his two-year detention at Guantanamo Bay as a period of continual mistreatment that ranged from humiliation and 15-hour interrogations to physical abuse he said left scars.
"Where are your scars, then?"
"Ummm... I sent 'em out for cleaning. They'll be back Thursday."
At one point, al-Harith said he refused to take an unidentified injection and was chained up and attacked by five men wearing helmets, body armour and shields. "They jumped on my legs and back and they kicked and punched me," said the 37-year-old website designer and father of three from Manchester, England.
"Shuddup! Yer takin' yer giggle juice! Thump 'im, guys!"
...I fell down the stairs and my shoes fell off.
"Then I was put in isolation for a month."
...and I couldn't see -- so good
Al-Harith said he was kept mostly in a wire cage and given food marked "10 to 12 years beyond their usable date," as well as "black and rotten" fruit. Sometimes, unmuzzled dogs were brought to the cage and encouraged to bark, he said.
I'll bet they pooped, too. That's why I don't own a dog. I can poop in my own living room...
Detained in Afghanistan in October 2001, al-Harith maintains he had travelled to the region to attend a religious retreat in Pakistan.
Perfectly harmless...all I wanted to do was kill Americans, and who doesn't want to do that these days?
Posted by:Ol_Dirty_American

#12  This guy is lying his ass off for the most part (especially about "physical abuse"), and for the rest of it, he has been, as we call it, "mind-f**ked" - and believed every bit of it.

The "beatings" he recieved? Those sound like how you handle someone who is violently resisting being handled or moved. Here are the facts:

"Chained up" is probably a leg shackle given the facility there - its highly unlikely he was bound down completelychains - they are very inefficient for that purpose.

Note the body armor, etc, on the guards that he reported, and that they went for the legs - thats the first thing you do to get control of a subject who is physically violent and resistive to being controlled for movement, then you flip them face down, thus the "hitting my back" report.

Basically this guy is reporting a classical handling of a violent resistive prisoner - him.

The "rotten" food? That made me laugh. It isnt what he thoguht it was. But he is led to believe that it is.

A little mislabeling on the packages (MREs possibly - which can live 12 years past the originaltion date), and for the fruit, some food coloring and a harmless "smell" additive...

I guess thats what you get when you have some web weenie that wants to be a terrorist playing in the big leagues, mind-game-wise.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-12-18 1:20:02 PM  

#11  (bad british teeth pun)
... And they gave me dental care and made me brush my teeth!
(/bad british teeth pun)
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-12-18 1:09:31 PM  

#10  This guy is lying his ass off for the most part (especially about "physical abuse"), and for the rest of it, he has been, as we call it, "mind-f**ked" - and believed every bit of it.

The "beatings" he recieved? Those sound like how you handle someone who is violently resisting being handled or moved. Here are the facts:

"Chained up" is probably a leg shackle given the facility there - its highly unlikely he was bound down completelychains - they are very inefficient for that purpose.

Note the body armor, etc, on the guards that he reported, and that they went for the legs - thats the first thing you do to get control of a subject who is physically violent and resistive to being controlled for movement, then you flip them face down, thus the "hitting my back" report.

Basically this guy is reporting a classical handling of a violent resistive prisoner - him.

The "rotten" food? That made me laugh. It isnt what he thoguht it was. But he is led to believe that it is.

A little mislabeling on the packages (MREs possibly - which can live 12 years past the originaltion date), and for the fruit, some food coloring and a harmless "smell" additive...

I guess thats what you get when you have some web weenie that wants to be a terrorist playing in the big leagues, mind-game-wise.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-12-18 1:20:02 PM  

#9  (bad british teeth pun)
... And they gave me dental care and made me brush my teeth!
(/bad british teeth pun)
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-12-18 1:09:31 PM  

#8  Could use some paint.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-12-18 11:53:43 PM  

#7  
Posted by: .com   2004-12-18 4:27:02 PM  

#6  I think we need to take him back into custody.
That will solve the problem.
I am sure this violates the terms of his release.


I wonder when we will start seeing AI offices in the US trashed?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-12-18 4:26:05 PM  

#5  Shudda sent him to Riker Island. The little cupcake would have had a really sweet time with his boyfriends.
Posted by: anymouse   2004-12-18 4:23:59 PM  

#4  Hmm. Could the thought of a $10 million lawsuit lottery have anything to do with this? The lure of Islamic green is so much more attractive when supplemented with American greenbacks.

PS. No more prisoners.
Posted by: ed   2004-12-18 2:16:13 PM  

#3  Hadith hails from the Moss Side area of Manchester, apparently. What he describes experiencing in Gitmo sounds like a relatively relaxed weekend passed in that neck of the woods. He really should be thanking the US Government for an all-expenses-paid holiday on sunny Cuba.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-12-18 1:36:50 PM  

#2  This guy is lying his ass off for the most part (especially about "physical abuse"), and for the rest of it, he has been, as we call it, "mind-f**ked" - and believed every bit of it.

The "beatings" he recieved? Those sound like how you handle someone who is violently resisting being handled or moved. Here are the facts:

"Chained up" is probably a leg shackle given the facility there - its highly unlikely he was bound down completelychains - they are very inefficient for that purpose.

Note the body armor, etc, on the guards that he reported, and that they went for the legs - thats the first thing you do to get control of a subject who is physically violent and resistive to being controlled for movement, then you flip them face down, thus the "hitting my back" report.

Basically this guy is reporting a classical handling of a violent resistive prisoner - him.

The "rotten" food? That made me laugh. It isnt what he thoguht it was. But he is led to believe that it is.

A little mislabeling on the packages (MREs possibly - which can live 12 years past the originaltion date), and for the fruit, some food coloring and a harmless "smell" additive...

I guess thats what you get when you have some web weenie that wants to be a terrorist playing in the big leagues, mind-game-wise.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-12-18 1:20:02 PM  

#1  (bad british teeth pun)
... And they gave me dental care and made me brush my teeth!
(/bad british teeth pun)
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-12-18 1:09:31 PM  

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