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| WaPo: Terri Schiavo, 41, Dies in Fla. Hospice |
| 2005-03-31 |
| Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged Florida woman whose condition ignited a protracted legal struggle, died today at a Florida hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed under a court order. Representatives of both sides in a dispute over her fate confirmed the death shortly before 10 a.m. EST. The death of Schiavo, 41, ended the court battle that had pitted her husband, who wanted to take her off artificial life support, against her parents and siblings, who sought to keep her alive at all costs. But the death appeared unlikely to quell the broader controversy fueled by the Schiavo case, one that set right-to-life, antiabortion and conservative religious groups -- with backing from President Bush and Republican leaders in Congress -- against advocates of a "right to die" when the brain no longer functions. Schiavo's death, at the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla., came 15 years after she suffered cardiac arrest, experienced a loss of oxygen to the brain and slipped into a coma as a result of an eating disorder. She later emerged from the coma, but she never regained consciousness and remained in what doctors said was a "persistent vegetative state." snip RIP, Terri. You're in a far better place. |
| Posted by:Mrs. Davis |
| #30 Andrea, Now that isn't a very nice thing to do to an innocent bucket of shit (BOS)! After all a BOS just stinks -- and can be used as fertilizer if nothing else. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-03-31 11:07:14 PM |
| #29 mhw - or they killed a really persistent lover of life - however diminished I feel better about my POV |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-03-31 10:16:44 PM |
| #28 ex-lib the fact that Terri livedfor 13 days w/o food or water shows see was probably in a pvs. had she been in a minimally conscious state, she would have died sooner obviously, that doesn't change the morality; however, it does show that one of Judge Greer's findings was probably true |
| Posted by: mhw 2005-03-31 9:59:58 PM |
| #27 lebensunwerten Lebens. Life unworthy of life. Father, forgive them, for they know exactly what they've done. I am just so sad about this. |
| Posted by: Darth VAda 2005-03-31 9:36:50 PM |
| #26 Crazy Fool- a friend just called from Boston as she told me that a bucket of shit was thrown on Mr. Schiavo home and his car*** May the blue bird of happiness lay it on him -real thick! He is receiving death threat's from across the U.S. via telephone- blocked and pay phone call's. Andrea |
| Posted by: Andrea Jackson 2005-03-31 8:35:09 PM |
| #25 Barbara -Right you are MURDERED! denied her religious rights 7 amendment. They said on the news that her hussband is receiving death threat's via telephone from blocked call's or pay phone's across the U.S. Andrea Jackson |
| Posted by: Andrea Jackson 2005-03-31 8:30:45 PM |
| #24 Cingold, I respect your view and I am aware of the difficulties. As practiced by the left in recent years, media-approved civil disobedience is really no such thing. It is an assertion of power and privilege by a ruling elite, the institutional media themselves, by emphasizing the special license they grant to their adherents. To the lefty elitist participants, it is a game, an ostentatious display of allegiance and a declaration of status, membership in a powerful and privileged group. Above all, lefty protestors know that there will be no serious consequences for their illegal actions. As practiced many years ago by Ghandi and King, among others, civil disobedience was something else entirely. It was deadly serious and very risky. Ghandi was repeatedly imprisoned, King was arrested several times, his followers were spat upon, beaten, knocked down by fire-hoses and attacked by vicious dogs. Some were killed. A new campaign against the legally entrenched death cult would involve similar risks. It has similar stakes. Indeed, to Jesse Jackson and a significant minority of other Black leaders, they are the same. The campaign should be prosecuted with the same courage and steadfastness: if corrupt death cult judges imprison one leader, another can take his place. If New Age thugs murder a demonstrator, 10,000 should march the next day and dare the thugs to show their faces. If the murder collaborationist authorities confiscate an activist's property, then he or she should live as Ghandi did and continue to speak out. As for the MSM, they cannot ignore the mass arrest of thousands or the masscre of unarmed demonstrators by death cult police or media-incited mobs. They may distort it, and demonize the participants, but we have New Media to get the word out now. I know this is asking for a lot, but it is worth it. Civilization itself hangs in the balance. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2005-03-31 7:01:51 PM |
| #23 agreed AC and SR - return the 3 branch gov't to 3 equal branches. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-03-31 6:58:16 PM |
| #22 A.C. offers a plan. Before Terri's case went to the top of the news, rumors were that the Republican senators were going wobbly on the Constitutional Option. The Republicans must fight the battle to end judicial filibusters - even if they loose. They will be punished at the ballot box if they shrink from the fight. Terri's case shines a bright light on the over reach of the judicvial branch, and the importance of appointing judges who respect life. |
| Posted by: SR-71 2005-03-31 6:41:50 PM |
| #21 Atomic, The problem with using civil disobedience, such as was effective in forcing social change in the 1960s, is that: (1) the the MSM won't cover the civil disobedience in a flattering light, (2) the radical Leftists (new pseudonym is now âprogressivesâ) being confronted are willing to do damage in response, and (3) the courts and legislatures have been willing to allow and sustain civil and criminal RICO cases against the conservative leadership that promotes the civil disobedience -- effectively financially ruining those conservative leaders. I know people who have been put in jail for years over this kind of stuff. They lost houses, marriages, etc. It gets pretty harsh. I don't disagree with what you are saying, I just think the ballot box and the legislature have to be the way to force change -- through changes in the law/amendments to constitutions, AND THE IMPEACHMENT OF ARROGANT JUDGES. |
| Posted by: cingold 2005-03-31 6:16:36 PM |
| #20 Big Ed, I really don't understand your post. Are you disagreeing with me? |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2005-03-31 6:04:15 PM |
| #19 The death cult has fully subverted the legal system in this country; since lawyers, like their media colleagues, tend to be narcissistic, amoral, power-seeking beasts; but the possibility still exists that Greer, M. Schiavo, Delos and all the other killers can someday be held to account before a special tribunal based on the Nuremberg model. I am quite serious. We are headed for a new dark age, or worse, if we do not fight this demonic power-grab with every means at our disposal. One thing in our favor: The adherents of the death cult are by their very nature arrogant and therefore over-confident. In particular, as this WaPo propaganda release demonstrates, they do not understand the deep and profoundly broad nature of the opposition. Control of the media and the legal profession is a great asset for them but they are not invincible, and their hubris will be their undoing. Attack them at every possible point, in the legal system, in the media, in the legislatures, in every possible venue of public commentary. Turn them into the hated pariah class of American society. Publicize their links to authoritarian religious cults and their wealth and arrogance. Above all, remember this at the ballot box and fight the media/death cult candidates at every turn. Finally, there is no reason for the political left to have a monopoly on civil disobedience. The media cult itself has enshrined this as a virtual right over the last 40 years. Its brainwashed masses of adherents recognize it as such, just ask any left-conformist college student. This is a weakness, and it should be turned against them. Something like 50 demonstrators were arrested over the course of this ordeal for symbolically trying to take water to Terri. What if 1000 well-organized and disciplined people had tried it at the same time, for real? What would Greer's police goon squad (accesssories to murder themselves now) have done? Open fire? Left-conformists routinely engineer demonstrations to present the authorities with this choice of surrender or lethal force. This, too, has been promoted and enshrined by the media culture and it can now be turned against them. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2005-03-31 5:59:06 PM |
| #18 The bigger, and more telling lie, is the WaPo's characterization of Terri's advocates as "right-to-life, antiabortion and conservative religious groups -- I would not be considered "pro-life", though, I consider myself a {gasp} Conservative Republican, and as most RB folks know I have been louder than anyone else on this blog in the last few week. If you are considering a new puppy, I understand the Washington Post is very good for housebreaking... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-03-31 5:48:43 PM |
| #17 It's hard to count all the lies in this piece. As CF pointed out, Terri Schiavo was not on life support, a feeding tube is no different functionally from hand-feeding a person (say, a baby) who cannot do it alone. The feeding tube is not like a heart-lung machine or dialysis or even a pace-maker: it does not replace the function of a bodily organ. The bigger, and more telling lie, is the WaPo's characterization of Terri's advocates as "right-to-life, antiabortion and conservative religious groups -- with backing from President Bush and Republican leaders in Congress" with no mention of the disability rights groups, Ralph Nader, Jesse Jackson or the atheist/agnostic groups who opposed this barbarous murder. The pro-death forces have their own religious agenda, as espoused by media-based cults like Scientology and the so-called New Age movement. The latter, the declared faith of scumbag murder advocate Delos, is practically the state religion of the Hollywood/Madison Avenue Cultural Axis. That is what is really happening here, the death cults are an off-shoot of media culture and its commercially driven judgments of what constitutes a worthwhile life. Damn these savages and their media shills for all time. They have killed their victim, but they have planted the seeds of their own destruction in the process. Never forgive. Never forget. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2005-03-31 5:40:40 PM |
| #16 Korora--John Couey is the guy who kidnapped, molested, and murdered 9-YO Jessica Lunsford in Florida a couple weeks ago. |
| Posted by: Dar 2005-03-31 3:18:04 PM |
| #15 OK. Look at this. Puff Piece on Michael Schiavo-St Petersburg Times with this line buried... Schiavo, a registered nurse who works at the Pinellas County Jail, now lives with another woman and has two children with her. Then there is this..an pro Schiavo editorial... Editorial As sheriff of Pinellas County, Everett Rice gave Michael Schiavo a job. As a state legislator, Rice opposed a bill that would have blocked the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. To Rice, the two acts are unrelated. But to some people who are using the Web to try to stop Terri Schiavo's death, they are just some of the evidence of "conspiracy, collusion and coverup." {snip} Rice said he and Judge Greer are friends, and he acknowledged making a TV ad and was on the hospice board several years ago, as an honorary member because he was sheriff. Rice was one of eight Republicans in the state House who voted against a bill that would have prevented the withholding of food and water to incapacitated patients who did not make their intentions clear beforehand. "I tried to vote my conscience and not necessarily do what's popular," Rice said. "I wasn't counting votes. I think the Republicans might have misread this thing." This editorial tries to defend Everett, and even says, "How could someone think there is anything suspicious..." But it just looks very weird... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-03-31 3:13:41 PM |
| #14 Who's John Couey? |
| Posted by: Korora 2005-03-31 3:09:32 PM |
| #13 What the hell kind of system is this where Scott Peterson and John Couey continue to breathe our air while an innocent woman is left to starve to death? They should have just given Michael Schiavo a gun. It would have been more merciful and I'm sure he'd been been only too happy to use it on her. Bastard. |
| Posted by: Dar 2005-03-31 2:32:10 PM |
| #12 Let me try that again without my brain skipping words. Every judge involved in this, including SCOTUS should be arrested, tried, convicted and then executed for murder, along with Michael Schiavo and his attorney. Everyone of them plotted and assisted in the murder of this woman and the police who kept out the DCF agents need to be convicted and executed as well. Then they can all experience the "euphoric joy" that Terri did. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2005-03-31 2:18:23 PM |
| #11 Every judge involved in this, including SCOTUS should be arrested, tried, convicted and then executed for murder, along with Michael Schiavo and his attorney. Everyone of them plotted and assisted in the murder of this woman and who kept out the DCF agents need to be convicted and executed as well. Then they can all the "euphoric joy" that Terri did. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2005-03-31 2:11:00 PM |
| #10 This is a September Eleven of ethic. I will not forget, I will not forgive. An Innocent starved and dehydrated to death. A human being killed in the way we don't kill even animals. |
| Posted by: Poitiers-Lepanto 2005-03-31 1:02:14 PM |
| #9 Andrea, Because he (the pope) doesn't have a slimeball spouse (and slimeball lawyer and slimier Judge) who would deny him basic tests, treatment and therapy once the money had been awarded? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-03-31 12:14:46 PM |
#8 WaPo: Terri Schiavo, 41, Dies in Fla. HospiceThey misspelled "was murdered." |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-03-31 12:13:11 PM |
| #7 The poor girl's ordeal is finally over....now lets see if anyone gets arrested, violated any laws etc. I CANNOT imagine being married to her husband! Does anyone have the answer as to why the Pope can receive a nasal tube for feeding?. Nobody takes his tube away! Andrea Jackson |
| Posted by: Andrea Jackson 2005-03-31 12:10:40 PM |
| #6 $250 million was shunted toward the media by the pro-death groups for the promotion of their agenda over the last 10 years alone. And the media cooperated. The facts (that the media is still covering up): Terri DID NOT suffer a heart attack, she DID regain consciousness, she WAS NOT in a persistent vegetative state, and IT'S NOT a right/left issue--plenty of atheists, agnostics, disabled groups, Democrats, and even Moslems were protesting--and don't forget civil rights activist Jesse Jackson (who will now and forever be considered less than shit by the the majority of Dems) who came out at the Schindler's request in support of Terri, and called this pro-death fiasco what it was--immoral and inhumane. Welcome to the United States of the Netherlands--unless WE THE PEOPLE reign in the judciary through our representatives in the legislature. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2005-03-31 12:05:44 PM |
| #5 that had pitted her husband, who wanted to take her off artificial life support, against her parents and siblings, who sought to keep her alive at all costs. She was never on life support! This should say: |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-03-31 12:03:59 PM |
| #4 We Americans will go to no end to aid the helpless, fight injustice and tyranny, and make this world a better and safer place. The Gruesome Threesome that BigEd alludes to are definitely evil incarnate, IMHO. But they are just the symptoms of a bigger problem. We in the US have some serious work to do at home when we are confronted with the fact that the government was not looking out for the rights of this helpless woman. We are not the Netherlands, when it comes to euthansia, at least I hope that we are not. This war of values at home has equal or greater stakes than that of Afghanistan or Iraq. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2005-03-31 11:38:20 AM |
| #3 I wish it was just a Michael Schiavo / Judge Greer / Ambulance-Chaser Felos problem, but it's not. It's a "culture that doesn't respect life" problem. It's a culture that will kill innocents that can't speak up for themselves -- out of convenience. It's a culture that has to debate "partial-birth" abortion. It's a culture that will kill unborn children and call it "pro-choice". Terri Schiavo's death today is just one of many hundreds today that demonstrate our culture's growing inhumanity. |
| Posted by: Tom 2005-03-31 11:34:20 AM |
| #2 judge greer.....may you suffer everything possible in this world, and the next. I hope your life on this earth is made unbearable. judge greer, you're a no-good piece of shit, a half-assed judge who's willing to MURDER this woman without her consent. FUCK YOU judge greer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Posted by: Tom Dooley 2005-03-31 11:14:33 AM |
| #1 RIP Miss Terri. You should't have had to go through tjis, and it was unconscionable that your true loved ones were thrown out of your room in you last hours. May "Judge" Greer, Ambulance-Chaser Felos, and Michael Schiavo rot in HELL |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-03-31 10:36:16 AM |