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Afghanistan/South Asia
Taliban on the run
2005-03-30
On the night of Feb. 23, a Taliban bomber sneaked through the vineyards near Kandahar, southern Afghanistan, carrying an explosive device hidden in an old cement sack. He planted his bomb by the road, primed to go off just as a U.S. convoy came rumbling past. The bomber must have thought he was on home turf. His chosen site was just a kilometer or so away from the madrasah where a one-eyed cleric named Mullah Mohammed Omar launched a movement of young religious zealots in 1994. Within two years the Taliban controlled nearly all of Afghanistan, and Omar had forged an alliance with Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda forces. But the bomber chose the wrong place. For months, U.S. soldiers have been busy in Omar's village, digging wells, building schools, handing out medicine—even helping to restore the tomb of a Muslim holy man. The troops' efforts to win the hearts and minds of the local people paid off. A shepherd noticed the explosive and told the local police chief. Soon afterward, U.S. Army experts defused the bomb.

That's a small indication of a big change. Six months ago, Afghans around Kandahar were either too loyal to the Taliban, or too scared of them, to have tipped off U.S. soldiers. Sure, bin Laden is still at large, probably hiding somewhere along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, and the trail for him has gone cold. But U.S. military officers, Afghan officials and even several ex-Taliban commanders say that the Taliban itself is on the run. "The Taliban is a force in decline," says Major General Eric Olson, who conducted the U.S. military's counter-insurgency battle in Afghanistan until last month.

The Taliban's fall has been a long time coming. After U.S. forces took Afghanistan in December 2001, many Taliban simply melted away into their villages. But plenty chose to fight on. Using Pakistan as a sanctuary, and recruiting fresh volunteers from seminaries around the Pakistani cities of Quetta and Peshawar, die-hard Taliban commanders led by Omar conducted a jihad against American forces. By late 2002, say Afghan officials in Kabul, nearly half the country was out of bounds to foreign relief missions. And without the lifeline of aid, Afghans saw no point in supporting the U.S.-backed government of President Hamid Karzai.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#17  tdottw - Ah, I am also a follower of Larsen - you will go far! Just keep to The Path, heh.
Posted by: .com   2005-03-30 7:35:31 PM  

#16  Just fly a real cool plane AP.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-30 7:01:07 PM  

#15  "Hey, Phil, what's a mountain goat doing in a cloudbank?"

Yes, my only function on this forum is to interject witty comments. Please continue with your observations.
Posted by: trailing daughter of the trailing wife   2005-03-30 5:09:48 PM  

#14  And the brutal density altitude of the mountains of Afghanistan. Now that is a genuine hazard for aircraft.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-03-30 4:19:40 PM  

#13  And the brutal Afghan spring...
Posted by: Fred   2005-03-30 4:13:12 PM  

#12  Let's not forget the BRUTAL Iraki winter.
Posted by: JFM   2005-03-30 1:47:07 PM  

#11  You just wait until the BRUTAL Afghan winter sets in, filthy infidels!
Posted by: OBL   2005-03-30 12:54:01 PM  

#10  What?

11A5S nailed it. Your comment makes no sense.
Posted by: .com   2005-03-30 11:42:01 AM  

#9  Correction 11A5S - If you want to do the job right the first time and they are really unreformed a-holes, then you just plain need to kill them and let everybody know you did it and why.
Posted by: Tkat   2005-03-30 11:35:06 AM  

#8  The 1st intifada was started precisely because the Israelis where winning Pal hearts and minds by building roads, putting in sewers, etc. Sometimes, you just need to kill all of the assholes.
Posted by: 11A5S   2005-03-30 11:24:30 AM  

#7  LH

This is BS. The first step has been kicking out the Taliban. The second step is showing the locals YOU are the strong horse and that you are not going away. You can do all the nation building you want, people will not turn the guerillas if they think in a couple years you will abandon them to the tender mercies of Mullah Omar. Nation building can give people reasons to side with you but they will not lift a finger as long as they think this would be a death sentence upon them.
Posted by: JFM   2005-03-30 11:18:57 AM  

#6  Doc8404, I would add that it has something to do with cause and effect. LH, please read #4,5 & 6 several times. ;-)
Posted by: Sobiesky   2005-03-30 10:03:08 AM  

#5  Point noted LH but you can't lay pipe or repair/build infrastructure of any kind without security being in place.
Posted by: Doc8404   2005-03-30 9:55:43 AM  

#4  LH - that works in some places, in others you have to kick abdul in the head a few times before they get it. Think the Paleos would appreciate IDF crews putting in sewer and water lines?
Posted by: Frank G   2005-03-30 9:54:45 AM  

#3  Yup! Sounds like a QUAGMIRE to me....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-03-30 9:20:01 AM  

#2  
What turned the tide? In a word, nation building. Winning over the Afghans by piecing together their war-shattered country has done more to weaken the Taliban and al-Qaeda than any military operation, say Afghan and American officials. U.S. troops who arrived in Afghanistan expecting to battle Taliban in the ravines now find themselves instead in grim, barren places like Omar’s village laying irrigation pipe. And once the villagers began trusting the Americans, say Afghan officials, they slowly abandoned support for the Taliban.



Study this, again and again and again.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2005-03-30 9:17:55 AM  

#1  Wot about the 'sprink offensive'? NYT.


It sprunk a leak. BTW Omar, you ugly and stop wimking at me!
Posted by: Spomock Threck1785   2005-03-30 12:15:53 AM  

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