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| Islamism and leftism add up to anti-American madness in Turkey. |
| 2005-02-16 |
| by Robert L. Pollock, Wall Street Journal EFL. Why are relations with Turkey deteriorating? Here's why: . . . On a brief visit to Ankara earlier this month with Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith, I found a poisonous atmosphere--one in which just about every politician and media outlet (secular and religious) preaches an extreme combination of America- and Jew-hatred that . . . voluntarily goes far further than anything found in most of the Arab world's state-controlled press. If I hesitate to call it Nazi-like, that's only because Goebbels would probably have rejected much of it as too crude. We're talking "Jihad Unspun" levels of crudeness here. Consider the Islamist newspaper Yeni Safak, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's favorite. A Jan. 9 story claimed that U.S. forces were tossing so many Iraqi bodies into the Euphrates that mullahs there had issued a fatwa prohibiting residents from eating its fish. Yeni Safak has also repeatedly claimed that U.S. forces used chemical weapons in Fallujah. One of its columnists has alleged that U.S. soldiers raped women and children there and left their bodies in the streets to be eaten by dogs. Among the paper's "scoops" have been the 1,000 Israeli soldiers deployed alongside U.S. forces in Iraq, and that U.S. forces have been harvesting the innards of dead Iraqis for sale on the U.S. "organ market." |
| Posted by:Mike |
| #15 Now I understand why Turkey is called turkey! Thank God they were finally driven out of my ancestral homeland! |
| Posted by: Janos Hunyadi 2005-02-16 8:24:04 PM |
| #14 A Muslim is a muslim is a muslim... Jihadis and Turks and Pakis and Saudis and what not... |
| Posted by: Glereper Craviter7929 2005-02-16 7:51:54 PM |
| #13 Turkey could easily become just another second-rate country:... "Could"???? |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-02-16 6:00:24 PM |
| #12 How did these bastards find out so quickly about our "Eighth Planet Theory"? Our plans have been foiled again! Quick! To the Time Machine!! |
| Posted by: shellback 2005-02-16 1:13:59 PM |
| #11 Bulldog: I've always been partial to the term "chattering classes" for the people you describe. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2005-02-16 12:07:20 PM |
| #10 We should move with all dispatch to get our people out of Turkey in general and Incirlik in particular so that we can feel free to flash fry the Turkish Army when it tries to invade northern Iraq (Kurdistan). |
| Posted by: RWV 2005-02-16 10:34:54 AM |
| #9 Islamism and leftism add up to anti-American madness... The Islamism is probably redundant at this point. |
| Posted by: BH 2005-02-16 10:07:07 AM |
| #8 Jackal - " And we didn't go to the moon, either, since Allan's reign will last until men walk on the moon." I hope you made that up! |
| Posted by: 3dc 2005-02-16 8:39:14 AM |
| #7 In addition to helping Turkey with all the things mentioned, we've hosted tens of thousands of govt personnel in the US to give training in data collection, statistics, etc. We've provided seismic engineering to their building designers. We've trained their EMT personnel in rescue techniques. We've also hosted many, many citizens in private US homes. Thousands of Turkish citizens are employed by the US military at air bases in Turkey. |
| Posted by: mhw 2005-02-16 8:31:56 AM |
| #6 Bulldog: You get conversations like that right here in Tucson. At the U of A, of course. RC: "They're not even aware there are nine -- maybe ten, depending how you count -- planets." Well, of course not. The Koran says there are seven, so seven it is. And we didn't go to the moon, either, since Allan's reign will last until men walk on the moon. |
| Posted by: jackal 2005-02-16 8:16:41 AM |
| #5 Perhaps the most bizarre anti-American story au courant in the Turkish capital is the "eighth planet" theory, which holds not only that the U.S. knows of an impending asteroid strike, but that we know it’s going to hit North America. Hence our desire to colonize the Middle East. They're not even aware there are nine -- maybe ten, depending how you count -- planets. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-02-16 8:01:24 AM |
| #4 I've long been fond of the simple pseudo-intellectual, BD, coupled with a gentle smile. Alternately, the self-described elite. Unfortunately, while people like us understand immediately, the targets too often think it refers to someone else. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-02-16 7:36:07 AM |
| #3 Maybe that's why the EU wants them to join Europe. |
| Posted by: Glereger Cleregum6223 2005-02-16 7:32:05 AM |
| #2 You've got to laugh. What a bunch of morons. It all sounds loony, I know. But such stories are told in all seriousness at the most powerful dinner tables in Ankara. You'd hear similar, although less 'far out', conversations at dinner tables in London, too. Engaged in by people most commonly referred to as 'intellectuals' or 'elite'. Time to junk such terminology, IMO. Narrow-minded professional workaholics aren't an elite any more than fishermen or plumbers, and those who show a determination to not learn from real-world experiences cannot possibly be referred to as 'intellectual' without irony. Any suggestions? |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2005-02-16 7:19:10 AM |
| #1 And the Turks wonder why we are sympathetic to the Kurds. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2005-02-16 7:02:36 AM |