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'There can be no end to jihad'
2005-02-02
Islamist Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, in an exclusive interview, discusses the rationale for 9/11, the Christians he most respects, and the Jesus he defends... Since the time Sheikh Omar granted this interview, he has issued a statement officially dissolving Al Muhajiroun. A later report in the Muslim Weekly, emanating from the Luton Council of Mosques (which opposes him), suggested that plans are afoot to re-brand the group as Ahl us-Sunnah wal Jamaah. Other British Muslim groups, such as the Muslim Council of Britain, frequently denounce Sheikh Omar.

Most Rantburgers won't be surprised. Nice to see names of a few groups opposing him.
Posted by:James

#32  I credit Bush with his achievments. Otherwise I would still call him "shrub." You cannot imagine how happy I am that the "axis of evil" has been identified. It is his insistence upon religion that pisses me off more than you can imagine. Reason alone (not Republican ethos) demands that terrorism must be fought. Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-02-02 11:59:19 PM  

#31  I dunno Zenster. In 1945 I could've dogged Churchill for being an unrepentant imperialist and colonialist and mourned the effect of his reactionary ways upon his legacy (after all, Labour was going to nationalize industry and Dr. Lasky was going to lead us to the socialist paradise).

As to us all dying. I could see a major die off in the next fifty years (something along the lines of what Vernor Vinge postulated in The Peace War), but not an extinction episode. Humans are pretty damn adaptable.
Posted by: 11A5S   2005-02-02 11:56:08 PM  

#30  And if you dismounted and credited him with what he has done - far more than anyone except Reagan in the last 40 or 50 years - that would be called giving credit where due, a very honorable position which still allows for criticism.

His time is only half done. Stay tuned.
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 11:46:57 PM  

#29  But whatever Bush does is never enough for you, is it?

Horseshit.

If Bush could only dismount his high horse of religiosity, he just might go down in history as one of the few chief executives who had the Churchillesque testicles to read all these jihadist "guttersnipes and thugs" the riot act.

Instead, we are treated to the grim spectacle of an American president so beholden to his own fundamentalism that he is unable to hold others accountable for their own intransigence.

.com, we are entering an era where it will be one of two things. Either all of us discover comutuality (points to whomever can source that word) or coexistence, or we all are doomed to die. I for one refuse to accept that. Those who refuse to accept pluralism must be exterminated, or we will all die at their hands.

Bush is far too bound to a sense of Christian supremacy. It neuters his vision of any sort of global theological combine. This is a (literally) fundamental blindness upon his own part and merely one of many reasons I cannot respect him, despite his office.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-02-02 11:40:42 PM  

#28  Lol - I missed a LOT being out of the US for most of the last decade. I'm watching "old" CSI reruns right now - they're new to me, heh.
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 11:30:51 PM  

#27  Shiite, .com. I'm shocked that you of all persons haven't heard that one yet. :-)
Posted by: 11A5S   2005-02-02 11:26:27 PM  

#26  Communist greetings tovarishch Frank! Still a little sore but I tell you, if I ever catch that Mercader bastard, I'm going to give him a home colectomy.
Posted by: Trotsky   2005-02-02 11:22:08 PM  

#25  Laughing so hard I can't even spell "in", lol!

Thx, 11A5S!
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 11:17:35 PM  

#24  UN-PC ROFL!!!

Yep - belongs ie this thread I'm glad you shared, lol!
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 11:16:39 PM  

#23  Terrible, racist, inhumane joke follows, but I'm just that kind of mood and it seems to belong in this thread.

An Indian, and Arab, and a Cowboy are sitting at a bar, hunched over their drinks. The Indian looks up from his whiskey and says sadly, "We are a proud people. Once we were many, but now we are few."

The Arab then puts down the mint tea he was sipping and says in a loud, challenging manner, "We are also a proud people. Once we were few, but now we are many."

The Cowboy puts down his beer, smiles, looks at the Arab and says, "Well Mahmoud, that's because we haven't played Cowboys and Arabs yet."
Posted by: 11A5S   2005-02-02 11:12:07 PM  

#22  Lol - but it was such a little hole. Deep, yes, but so little... ;-)
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 11:08:08 PM  

#21  how's that headache?
Posted by: Frank G   2005-02-02 11:07:00 PM  

#20  Damnit, I invented the theory of permanent jihad, er revolution.
Posted by: Trotsky   2005-02-02 11:04:31 PM  

#19  Bush started the push tonight to win the hearts and minds™ of the Iranian people - they'll do the regime change, with our help. Start the blackops war now
Posted by: Frank G   2005-02-02 11:03:04 PM  

#18  Zenster - And this is precisely where we must part company. In this venue, in your anonymity, you can rant and rave with the best of us (and you're good at it, lol!) but out there, in the real world where there are consequences and realities (political, financial, etc.) everything must be done step-wise. And you know this - your personal problems prevent you from accepting it publicly or taking it into account in your responses. And that's truly sad.

Tonight we heard the closest thing to an ultimatum to Syria and Iran, short of a declaration opening hostilities. But whatever Bush does is never enough for you, is it? So I guess you'll continue in your BDS-induced fog, seeking a genealogical trace-route back to Bush for all the ills you perceive to be unaddressed - and I'll keep pointing out that you (and others) neglect to include reality in your considerations.

Believe it or not, this saddens me. You'd make a terrific ally in our current and future travails.
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 10:58:48 PM  

#17  I personnally like the duplex reticule, .com, but that one you offered will do quite nicely.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-02-02 10:49:29 PM  

#16  Why someday, many might even conclude we have been given no choice but to fry 'em up.

The choice is not ours, unless you mean one of simple survival. Violent jihadists are making the choice for all thinking people. It is truly "them or us." It's merely Islam which, as a whole, fails to understand that they're on the losing side of the equation.

Too bad that nobody, right down to Bush himself, has the courage to tell Islam that it is incumbent upon them to clean their own house. I can only speculate as to how much American blood must be spilt overseas before we finally realize that the task of purging violent jihadists is one that Islam must shoulder or face global extinction.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-02-02 10:43:44 PM  

#15  any / SW - :)
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 10:29:48 PM  

#14  It really is getting simplified - thanks to their implacability and blind fear / hatred of freedom.

Why someday, many might even conclude we have been given no choice but to fry 'em up.
Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 10:29:00 PM  

#13  .com
As I don't like acronyms, Roling On The Floor Laughing
Posted by: SwissTex   2005-02-02 10:28:06 PM  

#12  "the Jesus he defends... "

Spock: It does not compute.
Never did, never will, like all BS.
Posted by: Duh   2005-02-02 10:28:01 PM  

#11  Ã¢Â€Â™There can be no end to jihad’

When push comes to shove, there's several thousand fusion warheads that'll make an end of jihad. Rectal cavities like Bakri who make peaceful resolution of the problem impossible make violent resolution of the problem inevitable. (To paraphrase JFK.) Someone needs to cap this maggot post haste.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-02-02 10:24:25 PM  

#10  excellent, .com. That cockroach should be dead.
Posted by: anymouse   2005-02-02 10:01:11 PM  

#9  Well said, Dave. If they have a death wish, they have come to right place.
Posted by: SR71   2005-02-02 8:04:41 PM  

#8  Not to me...

Posted by: .com   2005-02-02 6:48:03 PM  

#7  Need a crosshair overlay for the photos of these types. Or is that too inappropriate?
Posted by: DO   2005-02-02 5:54:05 PM  

#6  What is it with Leftist Organizations and Islamofacist groups and thier need to continually change names. They drive me nuts!
Posted by: Sgt.D.T.   2005-02-02 5:23:16 PM  

#5  Sheikh Omar is a boneheaded idiot who practices a religion of hate. A religion that believes in waging jihad against those who don't believe in his brand of Islam is an evil religion. The victims of 9/11 did nothing other than show up to work. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind jihadists.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen   2005-02-02 4:47:01 PM  

#4  Ã¢Â€Â™There can be no end to jihad’

derka derka jihad jihad
Posted by: Sheikh Omar   2005-02-02 4:43:48 PM  

#3  Ã¢Â€Â™There can be no end to jihad’

Sounds like a genetic problem.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-02-02 4:30:47 PM  

#2  I read the whole thing. It's fascinating. It appears to me that Islam must go the way of the Nazis.
Posted by: Tom   2005-02-02 4:30:22 PM  

#1  It's gonna be either "no more jihad" or "no more ummah". Take your pick. Those are the only two choices we're going to give you.
Posted by: Dave D.   2005-02-02 4:28:45 PM  

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