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Home Front: Culture Wars
Vigilantes Set to monitor southern border crossings
2005-01-25
...the "Minuteman Project" will field volunteers from 37 states, many of them ex-military and law enforcement personnel, to man observation posts and a communications center, along with seven pilots from Arizona who will provide aerial surveillance.

"I believe we will bring serious media and political attention to the shameful fact that 21st century minutemen/women have to help secure U.S. borders because the government refuses to provide the manpower and funding required to do so."
Posted by:Ebbavith Angang9747

#12  It's not a popular idea with big money donors. And Republicans are too firghtened of looing the hispanic vote they don't have.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-01-25 4:50:08 PM  

#11  I dunno, Tex. Cutting down illegal immigration is pretty popular from all the polls I've seen, usually like 60-70%. Many of the grassroots Republicans and many state-level officeholders support the idea; it's just the national GOP that is the problem.

It's not impossible that someone like Hillary could get to the right of the GOP candidate in 2008 on this issue. Of course, once in office, it would be the "Middle-Class Tax Cut" all over again, but it would be too late.
Posted by: jackal   2005-01-25 4:42:46 PM  

#10  I think it is a great start jackal.
If I did not have to work for a living I would head west and help them " spot ".
This is a major problem in my eyes.
I am pro Bush, but on this stance I disagree.
But remember, it is probably political suicide to support lock down on the border.
Posted by: tex   2005-01-25 2:58:08 PM  

#9  Tex:
According to the article, they are simply spotters. They just observe and report to Border Patrol who may detain them for a while, then let them go return them to Mexico. It's a start, anyway.
That area is pretty nice. To the west is the Coronado nat'l forest, lots of trees and some impressive vistas. Importantly, it has water and lots of concealment. If you are healthy enough to do some mountain climbing, it's probably the best area to cross. To the east it's more range land, mostly grass and scrub, but some actual creeks (part year, anyway).
By patrolling that area, you are forcing the law breakers west into the desert (maybe scaring them off the idea) or east into the Bisbee/Douglas area, which has more development and trespassers can be found more easily.

RC:
Having lived in the Detroit area (Dearborn Heights/Livonia) for 20 years, I can say that the Windsor side was civilized.
Posted by: jackal   2005-01-25 2:45:05 PM  

#8  I've only ever experienced civilized borders like Canada at Buffalo, NY, and international airports. Never mind.

Hmmm... does the Detroit/Windsor crossing count as "civilized"?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-01-25 2:34:51 PM  

#7  ...the "Minuteman Project" will field volunteers from 37 states,..

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a Minuteman and its payload dropping into Mexico City...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-01-25 2:31:46 PM  

#6  Thanks for the reality check, tex. I've only ever experienced civilized borders like Canada at Buffalo, NY, and international airports. Never mind.
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-01-25 12:58:15 PM  

#5  I couldnt agree with you more Jar Head.
Posted by: tex   2005-01-25 12:53:23 PM  

#4  God Bless'em, sad its come to this. Congress has pussy-footed this issue for way too long.
Posted by: Jarhead   2005-01-25 12:47:06 PM  

#3  "Do they plan to make citizen's arrests as well?"

240 volunteers vs 10,000 illegal crossings a day.
And that is if all the volunteers were working everyday. Not wise.
I have seen bullets flying while floating on the Rio-Grande on the tex-mex border. It is a very dangerous place. Bodies floating in the river are fairly common.
Posted by: tex   2005-01-25 12:39:31 PM  

#2  This is good. Thin out the economic migrants and the bad guys will be easier to find. Do they plan to make citizen's arrests as well?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-01-25 12:24:40 PM  

#1  Admendment X of the Constitution

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Seems the people are taking up the slack created by inaction or refusal to act by the government to enforce its own laws. This is the militia, not vigilantes.
Posted by: Don   2005-01-25 9:26:37 AM  

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