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Israel-Palestine
Abbas: "Tear down this wall...or else."
2004-12-29
Taking his campaign to succeed Yasser Arafat to the foot of Israel's West Bank barrier, interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said on Wednesday there would be no peace until Israel tore it down. Abbas, demonstrating a new knack for popular politicking after decades as a reticent deputy to Arafat, drew cheers from thousands at stops in two cities hemmed in by Israel's barrier in his pursuit of election on Jan. 9 as Palestinian president. "No (Middle East) peace can transpire with (Jewish) settlements and the wall," Abbas said with his back to the towering concrete divide that virtually encircles the town of Qalqilya near the West Bank's boundary with Israel. "We tell our neighbors: 'No matter how many settlements, walls or obstacles you build, it will not bring you security or peace," said the veteran moderate who wants talks on Palestinian statehood on Israeli-occupied land after years of fighting.
Again, I'm gabberflasted at Rooters' matter-of-fact description of Abbas as a "veteran moderate" as he threatens more bloodshed. I'd hate to see what an extemist might say...
Posted by:Seafarious

#16  dot com is right. build it faster....build it higher. if the wall wasn't effective there wouldn't be any crying and whining from the muslim perverts...
Posted by: Mark Z.   2004-12-29 9:38:33 PM  

#15  "tear down this wall and drown yourselves in the Med, then we'll be ready to start talks..."
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-29 8:59:19 PM  

#14  The fickle fence of fate.;
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-12-29 8:51:43 PM  

#13  They have the Wailing Wall. The fence needs a name, folks. Ideas?

Flailing Wall
Fence of Seethes (bad Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves pun)
Seethe-o-Matic
Posted by: .com   2004-12-29 8:46:36 PM  

#12  Of course. It interferes with their religious obligation to kill the infidels.
Posted by: Dishman   2004-12-29 8:38:44 PM  

#11  the wall is very unpopular among Pals.

Judging from the effectiveness of surrouding Gaza with a similar fence, I can see why the Paleos wouldn't like one paralleling Israel's border with the West Bank..
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-29 8:24:08 PM  

#10  It works, else it wouldn't be an "issue". Build it faster.

Paleo Politics is a unique creature... an institutional death & murder cult.

It will only be over when one side is wiped out, decimated. As long as the Israelis (and Americans) are not suborned or betrayed from within and meet the threats from all quarters of Islam head on, such as the Mad Mullahs, it will eventually be the Paleos who effectively exterminate themselves.
Posted by: .com   2004-12-29 6:56:16 PM  

#9  Let them have their elections, declare that they are a state, and then LEVEL the f*cking snakepit the next time one of those state-sponsored terrorist groups act.

How long must this charade continue? When I was growing up, my folks purchased a 1968 set of Colliers Encyclopedias. When I was home for Christmas, I looked up "Israel" in the encyclopedia. A full 24 pages was devoted to the topic, and there wasn't ANY real mention of the bullsh*t that passes for "the current political position". Instead, it merely noted the history of Israel, the history of the Jews, and that Israel had defended itself a number of times from its violent neighbors.

Since 1968 a total and complete DO-OVER of history has occured--and we're all the worst for it.
Posted by: Crusader   2004-12-29 6:02:35 PM  

#8  Its no suprise the animals resent their cage. If I were Abbas, I'd tone it down a bit though, I wouldn't want to spend my every waking hour listening for the approaching Apache's.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-12-29 3:29:40 PM  

#7  sucks being the titular head of a psychotic gang of nihilistic hate-drenched killers, huh? Too bad, Abbas
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-29 3:26:25 PM  

#6  Maybe so, Frank G, but that would be the case whatever rhetoric he used.

Islamic Jihad operative 1: We gotta kill Abbas, he just signed an agreement with Sharon
Islamic Jihad operative 2: No way, he warned us he would during the election campaign, that means he gets to live.

I dont think so.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-12-29 3:25:00 PM  

#5  I think that the correct translation of Abbas' remarks is "Build it faster, higher, and stronger." Also, "shoot anybody and everybody that tries to tear it down or somehow get around, over, or through it." The Palestinians will never admit that the reason they live in a pestiliential s--thole is because they are the only ones that live in it.
Posted by: RWV   2004-12-29 3:16:24 PM  

#4  LH - his rhetoric to try and garner votes will come back to bite his ass. Either the IJ or Hamas will take him out when he reneges, or his admin will come to reside in a rubble-filled compound like the Muqata
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-29 2:48:59 PM  

#3  the wall is very unpopular among Pals. It would be very odd if Abbas didnt denounce it. The real question is will he refuse to act (stop incitement, crack down on terrorists, negotiate) while the wall is in place. We shall see.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-12-29 2:37:32 PM  

#2  ..interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said on Wednesday there would be no peace until Israel tore it down.

Anyone still think that Mazen and/or any of his comrades in arms are really serious about "peace" with Israel?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-29 2:27:33 PM  

#1  I guess that simplifies war planning with the IDF.
Posted by: badanov   2004-12-29 2:10:11 PM  

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