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International-UN-NGOs
UN to Bill Iraq $30M To Investigate UN Oil-For-Saddam Corruption
2004-11-24
EFL - redefines chutzpah, no? HT to Captain Ed
Iraq has protested a U.N. decision to use $30 million in revenue from the U.N. oil-for-food program for Iraq to help pay for the investigation of alleged corruption in the humanitarian effort.
Mike S - please provide....awwww just forget it - it's beyond description
In a letter obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press, Iraq's U.N. Ambassador Samir Sumaidiaie argued that Security Council resolutions don't support the use of oil-for-food money "for an investigation into the internal practices of the United Nations in carrying out its duties." "My government believes that the use of such funds has no legal basis," he said in a letter dated Nov. 19 to U.S. Ambassador John Danforth, the current Security Council president. Last month, Secretary-General Kofi Annan told the council that money for the probe headed by former U.S. Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker would come from an account earmarked to pay U.N. administrative and operational costs for the embattled humanitarian program. Volcker said in August he doesn't know how long the investigation would take, but estimated it would cost at least $30 million in the next year.
Posted by:Frank G

#51  Mikey S is a typical dodge and run liberal - he refuses to flatly answer a question, poses hypotheticals with false pretenses, and replies with more questions.

All of which are designed to let him run away from having to actually back up anythign he says, use any sort of reason, and actually take a position, and to avoid him admitting he is wrong.

Is somewhat of a mental illness that Liberals like Mikey have. Avoidance behavior, and self-delusional edifices they construct and then contort themselves to avoid destroying.

I'm beginning to think Liberalism may be related to psychosis.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-24 11:11:50 AM  

#50  Mikey S is a typical dodge and run liberal - he refuses to flatly answer a question, poses hypotheticals with false pretenses, and replies with more questions.

All of which are designed to let him run away from having to actually back up anythign he says, use any sort of reason, and actually take a position, and to avoid him admitting he is wrong.

Is somewhat of a mental illness that Liberals like Mikey have. Avoidance behavior, and self-delusional edifices they construct and then contort themselves to avoid destroying.

I'm beginning to think Liberalism may be related to psychosis.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-24 11:11:50 AM  

#49  Why is Mike S. obsessed with excusing any wrongs committed by the UN?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-24 11:46:33 PM  

#48  It seems to me that this funding source for the investigation is entirely appropriate.

Yes. Kind of like the Iranian government executing political prisoners, then billing their families for the ammunition used.
Posted by: Pappy   2004-11-24 8:24:31 PM  

#47  what a crock of shit. Is anyone with me too get rid of the UN out of the US yet?
Posted by: smokeysinse   2004-11-24 6:03:17 PM  

#46  Liberalism and psychosis: I don't think liberals are psychotic, but the PEST thing is clearly a case of some people living in a world of abstraction, of mistaking their own ideas for reality. A person who wakes up on the day after the election, and nothing in their personal life has objectively changed, yet suddenly experiences depression, is living in a thought-created world.
Posted by: military industrial complex   2004-11-24 3:46:11 PM  

#45  The investigation is worthwhile if it shows that certain parties opposed the Iraq war for fear of the payoffs becoming known and their asses thrown in jail.
Posted by: military industrial complex   2004-11-24 3:23:56 PM  

#44  Who this Mikey S. character any way ??
He probably is sitting back with a bourbon and coke laughing.
Posted by: leo88   2004-11-24 2:56:48 PM  

#43  Helluva deal for the UN. Investigating their own scam with 30 mil of somebody else's money in another scam which they can run for years for kickbacks, limo's, hookers, five star hotels, five star restaurants, etc. only to come to the conclusion that they've done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.
They can then turn around, scam more money to investigate the corruption in the Great Investigation of the Corruption in the Oil for Food Program of 2004-05 and run that one for years. You gotta think crooked. Big time, UN crooked.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-11-24 2:44:00 PM  

#42  The point of the investigation is to get to the truth and throw some bankers in jail. Besides, it's better theater than Brian Peterson.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-24 1:53:24 PM  

#41  What's the point of an investigation anyway? Saddam is in jail, charged with much more serious crimes than this one, and Kofi is on his way out, right? Does anyone seriously believe that any punishment will be meted out to anyone at the conclusion of the investigation? Saddam is gone. The point is moot. Just save the 30 million for the next UN scandal.
Posted by: Iowa   2004-11-24 1:41:10 PM  

#40  Just-curious-other than in terms of manpower and debt reductions promises, what have the financial contributions of the coalition partners been in the war to remove Saddam?

I understand your argument, Mrs D, but doing so reinforces the rest of the world's notion that anytime there is a problem, the US will pay for it, no problem. There is no bottom to our wallet.
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-24 1:22:01 PM  

#39  Actually, it should come out of the UN's budget (Sec. Gen.'s "tap" prior to making allocations to lower levels) since it couldn't have happened without the UN's corruption. Or else, how about charging those countries whose twits took bribes from Sammy? France, Germany and Russia should pay a large portion.
Posted by: Spot   2004-11-24 1:19:55 PM  

#38  Spitzer, indeed. Any Dem with any political sense would want to be way out front in investigating OFF. Spitzer's a comer. Let's hope he knocks Hillary off her perch when she's up for reelection.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-24 1:19:40 PM  

#37  What's $30M if Irak gets the $21B back
Posted by: SwissTex   2004-11-24 1:17:26 PM  

#36  Because him who pays the piper calls the tunes. Let's just leave the whole thing to Coleman and Spitzer. Banking laws were broken, that's where the records are that won't be destroyed. Go get 'em.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-24 1:16:27 PM  

#35  Zhang Fei-why?
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-24 1:07:53 PM  

#34  I'm beginning to think Liberalism may be related to psychosis.

Modern psychaitry won't recognize it, but spoken as a man of experience, Marxism/Liberalism is definately a mental disease, a disease of the ego if you will, debilitating, hostile and ultimately self-destructive. Witness this new fad, PEST. A definitive pointer to mental disability.
Posted by: badanov   2004-11-24 12:58:24 PM  

#33  I think we should pay the bill for this investigation - if it comes up with sufficient evidence for the indictments of all the guilty parties involved.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-11-24 12:54:43 PM  

#32  Mikey's messin' with y'all. He's probably kicking back with a bourbon and laughing hysterically. Sick puppy.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-24 11:26:24 AM  

#31  Mikey S is a typical dodge and run liberal - he refuses to flatly answer a question, poses hypotheticals with false pretenses, and replies with more questions.

All of which are designed to let him run away from having to actually back up anythign he says, use any sort of reason, and actually take a position, and to avoid him admitting he is wrong.

Is somewhat of a mental illness that Liberals like Mikey have. Avoidance behavior, and self-delusional edifices they construct and then contort themselves to avoid destroying.

I'm beginning to think Liberalism may be related to psychosis.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-24 11:11:50 AM  

#30  On my way out the door,will return at about noon.I look forward to reading Mike's definative,detailed answer to my simple question.That is if he has the cajones,since he keeps ignoring me I may have to presume not.
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-24 10:25:54 AM  

#29  I think Mike is saying: "If the UN doesn't control Volker's investigation by holding the purse strings tightly, he might actually make headway in finding things out, and NOBODY at Turtle Bay wants that to happen", right Sylwester?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-24 10:24:08 AM  

#28   "You people who are criticizing: how do you think the investigation should be funded?"

There doesn't need to be funding, we already know Kofi & his boy are up to their ears in it. I say make an example out of them, have them do the rope dance right next to Saddam.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-11-24 10:14:57 AM  

#27  Come on,Mikey,put-up or shut-up.
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-24 10:04:10 AM  

#26  "You people who are criticizing: how do you think the investigation should be funded?"

If there was any Justice in the word; rent prime office space at the former UN Headquarters.
Posted by: Mr. Oni   2004-11-24 10:03:59 AM  

#25  This should come out of the UN general fund.
No excuse for it not to. This just shows how rotten the current UN leadership is.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-11-24 9:57:43 AM  

#24  Mike - you are truly a Kofi -loving POS when you can't see the problerm here. Beyond help or argument. I just loved posting it to see you take the bait like a frigging carp!
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-24 9:55:59 AM  

#23  Do you think Iraq should have to pay compensation to Kuwait for the destruction it caused when it invaded that country?

And that has what to do with the UN's corruption?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-11-24 9:52:03 AM  

#22  I don't know about Mike, but if I was SG I would change the working hours to include a longer Siesta, then I'd think about forming up a Blue Ribbon Panel. I'd legalize Brunch.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-24 9:50:25 AM  

#21  I figure someone/organization outside of Iraq must have helped, perhaps they could pitch in?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-24 9:48:14 AM  

#20  MS,you like possing hypothetical questions.You ask me and I answered,but you have not reciprocated when a ask you the same question.Will you answer today?If you were Secretary General of the UN,what would you do to stop terrorisam/genocide?
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-24 9:47:42 AM  

#19  Was there any one else Mike, perhaps they could pay a small share?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-24 9:47:03 AM  

#18  
Re #14 (Robert Crawford): Saddam is not Iraq.

Do you think Iraq should have to pay compensation to Kuwait for the destruction it caused when it invaded that country?
.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-24 9:46:21 AM  

#17  Mainly that's the former government of Iraq.

Also the present UN administration.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-11-24 9:46:15 AM  

#16  All that happens is the money gets fizzled away by the different departments within the UN , a little nepotism here

Ha! Mac! You are a man of little optimism. It's all about lunch. Let leave early and enjoy our regular table.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-24 9:46:02 AM  

#15  
How about the guilty pay?

Mainly that's the former government of Iraq.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-24 9:44:31 AM  

#14  The problem was created by Iraq, so it should be paid for by Iraq. I think most people would agree about that.

You're a disgusting piece of work, Mike.

I know this is a tough one, but try to keep up:

Saddam is not Iraq.

The UN is not Iraq.

The problem -- the bribery, the diversion of funds -- was created by Saddam, aided and abetted by the UN. Particularly by Kofi "We Can Do Business With Saddam" Annan.

The Iraqi people -- the ones who were NOT getting the medical supplies the money was supposed to buy -- should not have to pay for the corruption Saddam and Annan created.

The UN has an administrative budget, right? Take the money from there. If they have to let go a bunch of staffers, all the better.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-11-24 9:43:06 AM  

#13  How about the guilty pay?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-24 9:42:58 AM  

#12  UN investigations shouldnt even be allowed yet alone funded . All that happens is the money gets fizzled away by the different departments within the UN , a little nepotism here , a little backsheesh there , and hey presto 30million squandered by a bunch of inept , hypocritical , spineless , lying weasels .
Either you must work for the UN , or have no comprehension of how the differnt bodies within the UN work .
Posted by: MacNails   2004-11-24 9:20:31 AM  

#11  The problem was created by Iraq, so it should be paid for by Iraq. I think most people would agree about that.

A lot of times you make arguments that I disagree with. In this case you are making an argument that has tenuous contact with reality.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-24 9:15:59 AM  

#10  Costs equally allocated from all UN members?
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-24 9:13:06 AM  

#9  Well, we could start with the Annan family's swiss bank accounts, for starters. Then there's the lewt that the arafish collected. And don't ferget Chiraq's cut of the take. The list of possible sources of money is long and distinguished.
Posted by: N guard   2004-11-24 9:12:48 AM  

#8  
You people who are criticizing: how do you think the investigation should be funded?
.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-24 8:48:56 AM  

#7  
It seems to me that this funding source for the investigation is entirely appropriate. The problem was created by Iraq, so it should be paid for by Iraq. I think most people would agree about that.

As for the $30 millions, that's what an investigation like this will cost. Compare it to the costs of our various independent-prosecutor investigations here in the USA.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-24 8:47:19 AM  

#6  wish my accountant could come up with these figures , but alas he's an honest joe , not like Kofi and his weasels .

Thinking about it , counter charge for time wasted spent in Iraq . Consider it B&B .
Posted by: MacNails   2004-11-24 7:30:56 AM  

#5  And I thought chutzpah was defined by a guy killing his parents and then claim to be an orphan!
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-11-24 2:00:29 AM  

#4  No shame at all. Amazing.
Posted by: mojo   2004-11-24 1:19:23 AM  

#3  For $30M, Kofi should be able to buy a pretty good cover-up.
Posted by: RWV   2004-11-24 12:47:49 AM  

#2  The formatting sucks but you get the picture.
Posted by: Mhz   2004-11-24 12:13:23 AM  

#1  *------------------------------*
Bank of Iraq
Pay to the order of:
.....Secretary-General Kofi Annan
The amount of:
.....30 million f*ck yous
*------------------------------*
Posted by: Mhz   2004-11-24 12:12:36 AM  

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