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Israel-Palestine
Palestinians Want Road Map Revived Now
2004-11-12
The new Palestinian leadership is prepared to resume the peace process with Israel without delay, "even immediately", Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath told Arab News yesterday.
I'd suggest waiting three or four months before plugging in the Peace Processor™ again...
Speaking in a telephone interview, Shaath said it was unfair to blame Yasser Arafat for the deadlock in the peace process that began almost four years ago. "The Israelis used Arafat as an excuse to derail the peace process," he said. "With Arafat now gone, they have no excuse."
That sort of thinking is why I suggest waiting. Maybe make it six months...
Shaath said the framework for the resumption of talks should be the so-called road map proposed by US President George W. Bush and supported by the European Union, the United Nations and Russia. "We are ready to meet our obligations," Shaath said. "We must work together to create security for both sides."
They should be able to do that in three to six months, I'd guess...
In what sounded like informal guidelines for negotiations, Shaath said both sides should take measures to reduce tension and refrain from acts that might harm the cause of peace.
Does that mean no more bus booms? No more 4-year-olds slaughtered in their jammies?
He said the Palestinians looked to President Bush and other sponsors of the road map to move fast to revive hopes of a peaceful settlement to the 50-year old conflict.
Six months is fast in the wonderful world of diplomacy. Ask anybody in Darfur...
Asked to comment on reports of a power struggle within the Palestinian leadership, Shaath said much of that came from "sources with doubtful intentions."
Like the guys struggling for power, maybe? Or were you still nattering on about the Jews?
He said the Palestinians realized that this was a crucial moment in their history and that they cannot afford any internecine feuds. "Our institutions are working in accordance with the Basic Law," Shaath said. "People should wait and see how we work before they judge us."
Good idea. Six months it is, then...
He said there was a large measure of consensus on free and fair elections, and called upon the international community to help organize the elections within the 60-day limit envisaged by the Basic Law (constitution). "Israel must end its occupation of our cities and let us breathe," Shaath said. "The Israelis must remove the road blocks, let our people move, and resume a normal life as we prepare for the elections."
And what should they do when the booms start up? Hamas says they're going to keep up their attacks.
He said Israel should not attempt to interfere in the Palestinian people's forms of mourning their lost leader. "The Israelis should stop trying to dictate our joys and our sorrows," Shaath said. "They should let us be, at least in this moment of grief."
I doubt Israel really gives a fart, unless something blows up.
Shaath said the Palestinians would always remember Arafat as the man who brought them together and gave them a national identity. "Before Arafat, we were refugees seeking charity in the eyes of the world," the foreign minister said. "Arafat gave us a sense of dignity, made us realize that we are a nation, and persuaded the whole world to recognize us as such. Even the Israelis who never mentioned the word Palestinian ended up accepting that we are a people, a nation."
Yeah, and then he screwed it up, because he was a revolutionary and not a statesman. Who's going to take over now that he's gone? A statesman? Another revolutionary? Or a party hack with no power either way? We'll know in six months.
Posted by:Fred

#20  They want them to begin within 6 months? And what do THEY have to do to convince the "international community" that they are not only serious but worthy of negotiating with?

I would say 1) Whoever they "select" as their news leader must be expected to state publicly and without qualification Israel's right to exist and 2) The Palestinians must be expected to be terrorist-act-free for those 6 months.

Not holding my breath on either.
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-12 1:42:52 PM  

#19  Monitor the TV broadcasts for type of propoganda. That will tell you all you need to know about the new boss.

These guys have a model by which they will opperate. Unless they have a new outlook then why change the outlook regarding that. Business as usual me thinks unless otherwise noted.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-11-12 12:13:45 PM  

#18  Waiting six months to evaluate post-Arafat behavior is a good idea, and it will give time for the stench to clear from Arafat's path to Hell, just in case the next Paleo leader has to follow him.
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-12 11:30:25 AM  

#17  â€œThe Israelis used Arafat as an excuse to derail the peace process,” he said. “With Arafat now gone, they have no excuse.”

Nothing has changed. The Paleo mindset appears not to be any different than before, Arafart or no Arafart; according to them it's still Israel's fault.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-11-12 11:24:45 AM  

#16  I'm sending our top negotiator ..

#9 The Palestinians wiped their asses on every peace proposal in the last 30 years. F*ck em. The end.
Posted by: badanov [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2004-11-12 8:22:26 AM Comment Top

We expect results :P
Posted by: MacNails   2004-11-12 10:29:07 AM  

#15  This guy is asking for negotiations immediately in order to establish that he's the boss and hopefully head off a civil war.

I say the Israelis tell him to stop terrorism for six months as a "good will gesture" (why should the Israelis have all "the fun"?). THEN talk-talk can start.
Posted by: Ptah   2004-11-12 10:17:05 AM  

#14  We're kinda busy right now. We're building this big ass wall you might've heard about?
We'll get back to you, we...ummmmmmmmmm...promise.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-11-12 10:07:05 AM  

#13   “Our institutions are working in accordance with the Basic Law,” Shaath said.

your "Basic Law" just died. Let's see what you come up with to follow it
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-12 10:03:34 AM  

#12  Please Badanov, tell us how you really feel :)
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-11-12 10:01:09 AM  

#11  ..."dignity"...

The exact word I would NOT use to describe suicide bombers, Arafat, Hamas, Hexbollah, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or more recently, the mob that attended the burial today. You don't express grief for someone you loved by joining a mob of people who are completely devoid of self-control. I amazed that Arafat's body didn't fly out of the tilted coffin with all the bodies pushing and shoving like a mob at a concert, hysterical for the chance to rub the coffin and anoint themselves. Passion? Obviously. Dignity? Not a shred.
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-12 9:56:19 AM  

#10  its gonna get complicated now. Of course there will be no serious diplomacy in the short term, as Fred has pointed out. But there may be good reason for Israel to give a few goodies to Abu Mazen, to help him consolidate power. That will mean less "popcorn" and Israel will want something in return. IF Abu MAzen also asks for a "hudna" with Hamas, he and Hamas will really have to deliver - no attacks against Israelis, even in settlements. And a smooth transition in Gaza.

Most of whats important should take place quietly. Much of what Abu Mazen can do for Israel, he cant talk about publicly.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-11-12 9:38:49 AM  

#9  The Palestinians wiped their asses on every peace proposal in the last 30 years. F*ck em. The end.
Posted by: badanov   2004-11-12 8:22:26 AM  

#8  Correct Elder!

Whom could Israel sit at a table with among the gun firing horde in Ramallah? ? ? ? ?
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-12 7:58:57 AM  

#7  Dear Mr. Nabil Shaat,
The Road Map is now immersed in liquid nitrogen
together with sperm samples from Hitler and Arafat.
Will be thawed only after the last Jihadi is dead !
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-11-12 7:34:28 AM  

#6   Hamas-Islamic Jihad

Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-12 2:43:44 AM  

#5  I want a Roll Royce Silver Shadow, complete with chauffeur, in my driveway. Now.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-11-12 1:25:13 AM  

#4  No, Arafat wasn't a 'revolutionary' but a simple 'murderer' and 'terrorist'.

Revolutionaries don't deliberately target and murder innocent children ande babies. Arafat gloried in both.

Keep building the fence - build it faster! Until all the bloodletting is done in the upcoming Paleo civil war and they kill each other off in their de-facto 'palistinian state'.

Hamas will never give up murdering innocent civilians -- they are addicted to it.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-11-12 1:03:14 AM  

#3  smn: "I agree .com, give them a 6 month probation to quiet things down, with no incursions into Israel to bomb or snipe"

That was quite sufficient. The rest of it applies to an alternate reality. IOW, the first part won't happen.
Posted by: Cornîliës   2004-11-12 1:02:13 AM  

#2  I agree .com, give them a 6 month probation to quiet things down, with no incursions into Israel to bomb or snipe, then ratchet up the peace machine!
Posted by: smn   2004-11-12 12:56:07 AM  

#1  This has to be the Laugh of the Day. And only someone of the Arab persuasion would have both the audacity to suggest this makes sense and the stupidity to believe it does.

Road Map?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Posted by: .com   2004-11-12 12:46:44 AM  

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