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| Kerry less-than-honorable discharge story breaks... sort of |
| 2004-11-01 |
| Looks like none of the rumored bigs (Lehmann, Warner) were willing to talk about this on the record. But it's interesting that this clears up the why-he-didn't-get-into-Harvard-Law question. |
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| Posted by: Mark Espinola 2004-11-01 5:32:56 PM |
| #14 Mrs. D: Don't mean to sound dismissive, as I think you're right to an extent, but I still doubt it will have much effect. (If this story had broken in June or July, well, that's another story.) Most of that middle group has already made up its mind, and I'm fairly confident that the probability that Kerry's discharge was a little hinky (sp?) was already factored in to the decision. That's why I think there'll be no big effect now. |
| Posted by: Mike 2004-11-01 3:12:13 PM |
| #13 Mike, For the third of the population that's hardcore D and the third that's hardcore R, you're correct. For the third in the middle, but for the third in the middle, raised D, thinking R, it would be devastating and give Bush a huge victory. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-11-01 1:34:06 PM |
#12 I'll repeat what I said in a similar thread Friday; in terms of the election:I doubt that last-minute revalations on Kerry's DD-214 will do much one way or the other. Those who've decided not to vote for him on the basis of his antiwar activities have already figured he got a less than honorable discharge. The moonbats would probably consider a less-than-honorable discharge a badge of honor. Put it another way: how many of you can imagine an Angry Left liberal saying to himself, "I really hate Bush, I suport Planned Parenthood and gay marriage, and I agree with Michael Moore that this is a war for oil, but I'll be damned if I'll vote for a guy who betrayed us to the North Vietnamese!" |
| Posted by: Mike 2004-11-01 12:49:45 PM |
| #11 Like I said in another thread, I think there's going to be a massive exodus from the military if Kerry wins; short of electing "Hanoi Jane" Fonda herself, there couldn't possibly be a worse insult to our troops than a Kerry presidency. It would be like spitting in their faces and telling them all their dedication, skill, bravery and sacrifice aren't worth a bucket of warm shit. If Kerry wins, I expect recruitment and re-enlistment rates to plummet as knowledge of what kind of "Vietnam war hero" he really was spreads, and as the disastrous reality of his foreign policy begins to sink in. Kerry will have a difficult choice to make: either scale back our foreign deployments drastically, or re-instate the draft. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-11-01 12:38:10 PM |
| #10 Dave D. A lot of my friends in the military are very concerned over the election. They hate Kerry with a passion and don't want to serve under him but they love the US and don't want to abandon the military either. They are really torn about what to do, much like a lot of officers at the start of the Civil War. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2004-11-01 12:09:44 PM |
| #9 Let's put it this way: I'm not one of the "undecideds". |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-11-01 12:03:24 PM |
| #8 I take it you won't be throwing your support to John "Did I tell you I was in Vietnam" Kerry right Dave? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-11-01 12:00:55 PM |
| #7 No way is the MSM going to turn on Kerry like a shark: he is "their" candidate and they will spin like tops throughout his entire term to present his screwups as triumphs. The only reason they went after Clinton-- even to the very limited extent they did-- was that sex scandals are just too damned juicy to ignore because they are so good for Nielson ratings. As for Kerry's less-than-honorable discharge, watch what happens to military recruitment and re-enlistment levels if the sonofabitch wins tomorrow: serving a draft-dodger like Clinton was one thing; serving someone who's a traitor, a glory-grabber and a buddyfucker is something else entirely. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-11-01 11:44:11 AM |
| #6 I also don't think that the MSM would turn on Kerry. They would, perhaps, give him just a bit more scrutiny but I believe that should Bush lose their next targets will be the Republican controlled House and Sentate. |
| Posted by: AzCat 2004-11-01 10:04:55 AM |
| #5 I dont think the MSM would 'turn on' Kerry. After all they outright lied to support Clinton when he lied under oath. They outright lied when they said the 'conservative' social security increase was a slash-cut which would leave millions of seniors starving or dying because they would not be able to afford medicine. They might turn on Kerry when '08 rolls around in favor of Billary. I agree that the blogsphere is slowly eroding their powerbase (faster please). Their reaction to what happened with CBS is a good indicator. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-11-01 9:09:30 AM |
| #4 Thanks OS. The really bad ending is that if Kerry wins, the MSM will turn on him like a shark, which is what they are. I would bet that this story would get big play by the end of 2005 were Kerry in the hot seat. Recall they didn't do Clinton any favors. This is the problem with the MSM. They all see the base for a career being to destroy somone in public life. It started with Watergate and hasn't ended since. The blogosphere is slowly changing that by eroding their power. Faster, please. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-11-01 7:44:08 AM |
| #3 Were it Bush with this sort of skeleton in his closet, the MSM woudl already be printing page-1 headlines demanding Bush release his records. Kerry gets a pass on it. Prima Facia evidence of the MSM bias. Off I go - taking the day off to help the campaign as a volunteer. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-11-01 7:37:36 AM |
| #2 If the blogworld sets its mind to it, we could fix it so this crap can't ever happen again, in time for '06 and 08! |
| Posted by: geezer 2004-11-01 2:24:21 AM |
| #1 Mods, please kill the double post of this I did before logging into the poster-recognition system. |
| Posted by: someone 2004-11-01 1:55:15 AM |