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Home Front: Politix
Halperin directs Koppel 's Nightline - Get Viet Cong Vet to Dispute Swift Vets
2004-10-14
What Happened in Kerry's Vietnam Battles?
Nightline speaks to witnesses of disputed firefights
...Nightline traveled to Vietnam and found a number of witnesses who have never been heard from before, and who have no particular ax to grind for or against Kerry. Only one of them, in fact, even knew who Kerry is. The witnesses, all Vietnamese, are still living in the same villages where the fighting took place more than 35 years ago. A Nightline producer visited them and recorded their accounts of that day. The accounts were subsequently translated by a team of ABC News translators.

... Less than a kilometer upriver is Nha Vi, a small hamlet. Vo Van Tam, now 54, was a local Viet Cong commander during the war. According to him, the area was a hotbed of guerrilla activity. They had recently been reinforced by a 12-man unit, supplied with small arms and one B-40 rocket launcher. He said the reinforcements had been dispatched from provincial headquarters specifically to target the Swift boats. According to Vo, there were at least 20 Viet Cong soldiers at Nha Vi there that day. "There were 12 soldiers from the provincial level and eight from the district level," he said.

His wife, Vo Thi Vi, 54, said Feb. 28, 1969, is a day that the villagers of Nha Vi hamlet will never forget. "Everything was destroyed," she said. "There's no houses left. They leveled everything. There was no leaves left. The fighting was very fierce."
Posted by:BigEd

#14  Does anyone know if they ever interviewed any of the swiftboat guys? I dont recall that they ever did.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-10-18 3:24:59 PM  

#13  " #7 Waitminnit. They'll send a crew to (pardon my French) fucking Vietnam to "discredit" the SwiftVets, but won't bother to fucking interview ANY of the guys that served with Bush in the ANG?!"

They've interviewed people in the ANG, who were in that unit, and the reason why they won't interview anyone who served with him is because there IS no one who actually served with him. Kind of hard to find someone to serve with you when you don't bother serving. Isn't that kind of the whole point of that particular controversy?
Posted by: Elmoling Elmenter5811   2004-10-18 3:16:25 PM  

#12  I visited Vietnam early this year (spent ~2 months around SE Asia). There is so much communist propaganda in the streets. They'll lie about anything they can think of to get your money (and they'll make up any kind of story about the past to make the USA look bad). I can easily imagine these people (especially if VC) lying for money. They do it all the time. That's one of the terrible things communism does to people's morality.

It was the worst travel experience of my life. I do NOT recommend traveling there, despite what all sorts of people may claim about it being a good tourist destination. I loved the rest of SE Asia. Been to all continents. Vietnam is the worst place I've ever seen.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-10-15 12:34:02 AM  

#11  2b:
Are they really this desperate??
Well, yeah.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-10-14 11:36:31 PM  

#10  I'll trust the 200 some in Unfit for Command over a former enemy with an ax to grind, under a communist regime that may have been bribed to script another "documentary". Ya sure I believe what Charlie says, ya right man. And of course ABC is above reporach? Cut me a break.
Posted by: Bill Nelson   2004-10-14 9:19:01 PM  

#9  RC….right on! It's so freaking unreal that they don't realize how stupid it makes them look!!!! I'm beginning to think that they are just really stupid - period.

I don't know if you've seen the two new swift boat ads...but they are RADIOACTIVE! You can find them over at LGF if you scroll down. The old geezer at the end, with a big o'l Medal of Honor draped around his neck , says in his old, but still powerful voice, "John Kerry can't be trusted." It packs a wallop that sticks with you.

And this ...this lame-o, kindergarten, bunch of nothing, is what Nighline plans to put up against it? This is what they are going to stake their reputations on? A couple of people with conflicting stories, who don't really remember, and who John Kerry was shooting at? It's just so insane!!

Are they really this desperate?? It's becoming almost painful to watch them embarrass themselves in such a humiliating fashion - it's like watching a crazy person pee themselves and begin to smear poop all over themselves - it's too grotesque and embarrassing to watch!!
Posted by: 2b   2004-10-14 8:58:45 PM  

#8  The crew was probably already on their way to do a report on Bangkok's night-life, and got diverted...
Posted by: Pappy   2004-10-14 8:45:47 PM  

#7  Waitminnit.

They'll send a crew to (pardon my French) fucking Vietnam to "discredit" the SwiftVets, but won't bother to fucking interview ANY of the guys that served with Bush in the ANG?!
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-10-14 8:33:39 PM  

#6  Gosh Lex, I hope you are right. Well said, by the way. Stephen Green had a spot on rant about how they are turning us into a bananna republic in their quest for power.

It's funny, cause I was thinking about this, earlier this afternoon, before I read his rant - but for the first time ever, I'm not even going to study who I should vote for - I'm just pulling a straight Republican Ticket...all the way down the line. This will be a first for me.
Posted by: 2b   2004-10-14 8:33:22 PM  

#5  The MSM increasingly inhabit their own parallel universe. I'm beginning to suspect the polling numbers, too, are out of whack with the reality.

Remember the California gubernatorial "dead heat" (as per the LA Times just before the election)? Arnold won by 17.

MSM also said Jeb Bush was up by about 6 points; he won by 13. Three other elected Rep governors also beat the MSM spread, and handily.

The crucial fact here is that an increasing number of quiet, non-ideological, non-politics junkie types have departed from the Dem reservation and are looking for sane alternatives to a corrupt, intellectually bankrupt, morally challenged national Dem party. These folks may not admit it to their neighbors or colleagues or even their siblings and parents, but they will pull the R lever on 11/2.

Bush by at least 6 points. Electorally and nationally, this ain't gonna be close.
Posted by: lex   2004-10-14 8:16:29 PM  

#4  I wonder what the "interview fee" offered by ABC was... A bonus for those who "were there", perhaps? Another bonus for those whose stories of events went a particular way?

"Okay, everybody who was there raise your hand."
[all hands are raised; $1 bills dispensed]
"Awright, heh, now everybody who saw the brave round-eye attack the 'bad guys' (you)..."
[everyone who understood lousy translation raise their hands; $5 bills dispensed]
"Everyone who wants the 'truth' to get out..."
[everyone, even slow guys figure out the game...; $10 bills dispensed]
"Now everyone who wants to be a fire truck..."
[everyone, absolutely everyone...; $20 bills dispensed]

Eventually, even the most dense local will "get it" and realize what the guy with the ca$h wants to hear. American greenbacks will get you whatever you want. An attack by brave Martian Purple People Eaters? No sweat, Mr H, this guy over here...
Posted by: .com   2004-10-14 8:11:45 PM  

#3  This is just so lame! I can't believe that they think this will do anything other than heat up the debate. Those want to believe this type of thing, are already voting for Kerry. Anyone else with a brain will just think Nighline has become lamer than lame.
Posted by: 2b   2004-10-14 8:08:24 PM  

#2  Are they really stupid enough to do this? This can only help Bush in the long run.
Posted by: 2b   2004-10-14 8:04:37 PM  

#1  

Is this the puppy supposedly rescued from the BBQ?
Posted by: BigEd   2004-10-14 7:53:44 PM  

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