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| San Jose police chief to observe Ramadan fast in Muslim outreach |
| 2004-10-12 |
| San Jose Police Chief Rob Davis was speaking to 7,000 Bay Area Muslims last year at the end of Ramadan, Islam's holy month of fasting, when he suddenly realized that they had gone hungry when he had not. And they were celebrating an experience he did not know. ``It just dawned on me,'' he recalled. ``If I am truly going to understand the nuances of this religion, I should join them in this fast.'' So this week, Davis will join the world's nearly 1 billion Muslims in forgoing food and drink from sunrise to sunset in the monthlong observance of Ramadan. Leaders in law enforcement and the Muslim community say they have never heard of a police chief fasting for the entire month. Last year in the United Kingdom, the highest ranking police officer at New Scotland Yard fasted for one day. Davis' decision carries enormous weight with Muslims, who remain worried about racial profiling, continued backlash from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and, most recently in San Jose, the fatal police shooting of a Bosnian Muslim outside a coffee shop. ``It is a remarkable gesture,'' said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, an advocacy group in Washington, D.C. ``The fact that a major law enforcement figure in the country is making this gesture will help bridge some of the gaps in this country.'' During Ramadan, Davis plans to break the fast nightly with a different Muslim family, and will extend an invitation to eat at his home. The police chief, who is a Mormon, said his decision to observe Ramadan is not motivated by politics or publicity but by a desire to ``truly understand.'' Davis made the commitment when he was the deputy police chief and now, as the chief, he believes fasting can help him connect with a community that is growing in the South Bay. ``Everyone needs to know that the chief is the chief for everybody -- not just the majority, not just for those in power,'' Davis, 47, said. ``I need to be a chief for everybody, particularly for those who've felt marginalized.'' |
| Posted by:TS(vice girl) |
| #31 Did someone tell him that you shouldn't have sex during Ramadan? Ooops |
| Posted by: True German Ally 2004-10-13 12:07:13 AM |
| #30 the dumb fuck--he's going to grow payas,get himself circumsized and drink manichewitz wine for passover--does he try to hump the female deputies to empathize with rapists |
| Posted by: SON OF TOLUI 2004-10-13 12:05:08 AM |
| #29 Hey honey, let's visit Canada. I hear you can smell Hamas in the air. |
| Posted by: Poison Reverse 2004-10-12 10:28:01 PM |
| #28 He's just practicing for the inevitable dhimmitude should sKerry be elected. |
| Posted by: Scott R 2004-10-12 10:20:08 PM |
| #27 Has anybody heard if the San Andres fault has shown sign of becoming active again? I am sorry and I apologize if there are rantburgers from California here but I do not think it is possible to save the state. The best thing it could hapenned to it is to become detached from the mainland and to forever float on the cold waters of the Pacific Ocean. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4724 2004-10-12 10:12:27 PM |
#26 Hupereger Ebbigum6422:And I'm a f**king Canadian.Nobody's interested in your sex life, asshole. Keep it to yourself. You're disgusting.Right back atcha, jerk. Are you sure you posted to the right thread? Your reaction to this one is WAY over the top. However, I won't hold your idiocy against all Canadians. Most of them are pretty good people. We have our leftist, liberal, touchy-feely assholes too. Go play in traffic, loser. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-12 7:48:07 PM |
| #25 Guys, I kinda thought the chief's view on the isssue showed his superiority. And all here showed that to be so, no Moose-limbs will attempt his offering in kind. H.E. it's easy to be superior when you're nation exists because of U.S. (you reap the benefits without the expense). Put your ass on the line some... |
| Posted by: incarnateofleeatwater 2004-10-12 7:46:19 PM |
| #24 hey Hupereger Ebbigum6422 - i actually never liked canadians! totally dependant on the US and too ignorant to admit your on failings! |
| Posted by: Dan 2004-10-12 6:33:41 PM |
| #23 Damn, I hate this place..... |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-10-12 6:31:55 PM |
| #22 By gawd BH you've inspired me. Not tonight of course, but this weekend a fresh pork shoulder! Into the the black burka BBQ. I figure about 18 hours of fun. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-10-12 6:27:58 PM |
| #21 Pig roast and beer for all! |
| Posted by: BH 2004-10-12 6:20:11 PM |
| #20 I think food festivals are the absolutely correct way to celebrate Ramadan! Let them be open from sun-up to sun-down! |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-10-12 6:03:39 PM |
| #19 "Still, that gives me an idea: seek to undermine the meaning of Ramadan by turning it over to Disney, street parades, and food festivals." Hmmm... "Ramadan-o-Rama"? |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-10-12 5:58:25 PM |
| #18 It's troll night has the crescent moon drops in the east. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-10-12 5:40:37 PM |
| #17 Were there US officials "observing" German National celebrations in outreach to Nazis during WW II? Still, that gives me an idea: seek to undermine the meaning of Ramadan by turning it over to Disney, street parades, and food festivals. It is time for us to use any weapon available to attack and undermine the Moslem habits and beliefs. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-10-12 5:33:52 PM |
| #16 If he really wants the whole muslim experience he can strap on a bomb belt or hide behind his kid in a firefight. Of course, he'd have to take to blaming Jews. |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2004-10-12 5:30:31 PM |
| #15 Hupereger Ebbigum6422--How's that sharia law coming along in Canada? |
| Posted by: TS(vice girl) 2004-10-12 5:04:01 PM |
| #14 "Americans are a decadent, racist, immoral, monstrosity" Oh, shut up. Go fix your submarine or something. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-10-12 4:55:39 PM |
| #13 Hey, great idea! Let's start our own Ramadamadingdong festival! |
| Posted by: mojo 2004-10-12 4:50:19 PM |
| #12 Hey Hupereger, I was sure I flushed you this morning. Now be a good little shit and slide right back to the water reclamation facility. I heard our good Chief Wiggums interviewed on the radio at lunch. This guy is nothing more than an LLL posterboy. It was nauseating. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-10-12 4:29:28 PM |
| #11 Feeling's mutual. I f*cking hate Canadians. You're not worth the carbon in your bodies. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-10-12 4:24:07 PM |
| #10 You know. It's commentary like this that makes me slide a little more towards the "Americans are a decadent, racist, immoral, monstrosity" side of the argument every single day. And I'm a f**king Canadian. I used to like you folk. Now you're all acting like savage hayseeds, drunk on human blood. You're disgusting. |
| Posted by: Hupereger Ebbigum6422 2004-10-12 4:16:13 PM |
| #9 PC (plenty of crap) wins out again. Arrrgh! |
| Posted by: A. Bungfodder 2004-10-12 4:12:19 PM |
| #8 Chief, If you're lucky, really lucky, and be a good little dhimmi, maybe, just maybe... they'll kill you last. |
| Posted by: Dreadnought 2004-10-12 3:57:18 PM |
| #7 This is the kind of thing that "enlightened" people end up doing when they consider religion to be some cute little pageant that these funny little people engage in. It's not even dhimmitude; he just thinks he's being nice to some poor dumb slobs who don't realize they're sheeple. Ditto Barf. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-10-12 3:47:35 PM |
| #6 San Jose Police Chief Rob Davis : "It just dawned on me,if I am truly going to understand the nuances of this religion, I should join them in this fast." EVERYONE : Remind me not to try to call 9-1-1 if I am ever in San Jose and there is an emergency... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-10-12 3:38:08 PM |
| #5 "It just dawned on me," he recalled. "If I am truly going to understand the nuances of this religion, I should join them in this fast. Why not join them in a beheading instead? You'll learn more nuances that way. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-10-12 3:37:42 PM |
| #4 I wonder if he will also observe the islamic tradition of rape, robbery, and murder (as practiced by Big Prophet Mo himself).... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-10-12 3:30:42 PM |
| #3 Oh, goody. And in response, I'm sure the San Jose Moslems will participate in the upcoming Lent, and partake of a lovely ham for Easter dinner. I'm sure they'll gladly participate in the Jewish High Holy Days as well. Just so they can truly understand the nuances of the Christian and Jewish religions. I'm with you guys: Barf. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-12 3:26:08 PM |
| #2 Barf. |
| Posted by: Tom 2004-10-12 3:08:53 PM |
| #1 Barf. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-10-12 3:06:29 PM |