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FAILING THEMSELVES
2004-09-21
DEMOCRACY is the most humane, inspiring and productive form of government in history.
A couple thousand years ago the Greeks practiced democracy. One day they all got together and somebody made a motion that Socrates drink hemlock and die. Somebody seconded the motion and it was duly carried. A hundred years later the Greeks were studying Macedonian. Inspiring, ain't it? Democracy is what a people makes it, and sometimes it amounts to the population getting together and voting on how best to screw each other.
The problem is that many people don't want it. At least, not badly enough to fight for it. Other concerns take priority, from economic well-being to security. When given a chance to vote, hundreds of millions of people around the world vote to make themselves less free.

In Russia, President Vladimir Putin cynically exploited the Beslan massacre to eliminate elections for regional governorships, as well as to restrain parliamentary democracy at the national level. It's a huge step backward for freedom. And if a new presidential election were held today, the Russians would overwhelmingly re-elect Putin. They're disgusted with his government's performance in the recent hostage situation, against terrorism in general and in Chechnya. And they realize he's out to limit their political freedom, just as he's muzzled the media and concentrated the nation's wealth among his political supporters. But the Russians still view Putin as a strong leader, if less capable than he appeared even last month. It's a cliché to say that Russians want a czar. But the cliché exists because it's painfully true. This is not what Americans want to hear. We want to believe that every human being longs for democracy.
To kinda sorta paraphrase Maslow, every human being longs for groceries, a roof over his head, and to get laid. Once he's got that, he longs for security for his kids and to provide for his family. Only once he's got that — conditions we've routinely had here for a couple hundred years — does he worry about "democracy." The "democracy" he (she or it) longs for is actually "freedom," which is a slightly different creature: the right to be left alone. The Russers are in a position where their individual freedom is actually enhanced at the moment by Putin's statist approach. He's promising to protect the law-abiding and hard-working from a lawless liesure class. Keep in mind that Basayev's hard boyz don't have to work for a living; they get their money from Soddy Arabia.
Personally, I believe that we should miss no opportunity to foster democracy around the world and that we must be willing to fight for it. But we have to get past our emotions and accept the cold reality of this world: At least a substantial minority of humankind prefers strict order to the uncertainties of freedom.
I think most people realize that there are degrees of freedom, ranging from the license of anarchy to the regimentation of North Korea. Americans tend toward the license side, the Euros are a little more regimented, and the Russers still more regimented. But Russian regimentation is still a far cry from North Korean or Salafist regimentation. I'm actually not worried at this point.
If we cannot look reality in the face, however little we like what we see, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the Pentagon ideologues who believed that, once Saddam was removed, Iraq would turn into Nebraska overnight.
Nebbah hoppen, GI. First, Iraq had a long tradition of bloody-handed dictatorship. They're schooled into thinking of guns and mobs as methods of enforcing opinions. Second, prior to Sammy they couldn't manage to build a governmental system that was stable. One of Sammy's predecessors was not only shot to pieces by the new regime, but his corpse was abused on the teevee for a few days, just so the public would be sure he was titzup. Going into Iraq was a matter of liberating a loony bin. What's surprising to me is the number of people in Iraq who don't seem to be nutbags.
Democracy must be learned — and earned. The process, as our own history instructs us, is long and often hard. Democracy is incomparably magnificent. But it isn't easy. Putin knows his people. He offers them social freedom and economic improvement in return for accepting limits on political freedom. Many Russians think it's a fair deal.
It is a fair deal. Genuine democracy is an expression of individual liberty. When the political system starts becoming oppressive, there'll be pressure to relax it.
Another cliché that's indisputably true is that Russians fear disorder, a result of their turbulent history and, if Russia's greatest writers are to be believed, of the Russian character itself. Beslan wasn't really Russia's 9/11. The terrorist attacks on our soil galvanized America. The schoolhouse massacre terrified Russians. We struck back. Effectively. But the Russians have no idea what to do next.

Among the absurd punditry in the wake of the Beslan slaughter, the goofiest remark came from a "military analyst" who said, in a pompous, confident voice, that the Russian mistake was that they didn't bring in a special operations unit from nearby Chechnya. Anyone who knows anything about the Russian military and security services — or who simply reads Cyrillic characters — could tell from the news clips that the Kremlin had poured in its top special forces units from around the country. The problem wasn't that Moscow didn't care enough to send the very best: Putin sent the best he had — and their performance was abysmal.
There's the real story: Russia's military sux. But that's a conclusion we came to here probably a couple years ago. Under the Sovs there was a small proportion of the officers' corps that was well-trained and professional. The MoD had the bad habit of putting them into the elite areas, where a lack of brain would show up, which is why there weren't more subs sunk or civilian airliners shot down. The KGB grabbed off the best of the lot before they got into the military, and the GRU had first pick of what did. The navy and the air force were smarter than the ground forces. The border guards were smarter than the ground forces. The strategic rocket forces were smarter than the ground forces. The air defense forces were smarter than the ground forces. The airborne troops were actually a separate branch, controlled by the General Staff, and they were smarter than the ground forces.

Then, within the ground forces, the creme was sent to the Groups of Soviet Forces in Europe. The bulk of the Soviet forces within the Soviet Union consisted of time servers and hacks, a problem which showed up glaringly when they moved 40th Army into Afghanistan. And all of the Soviet forces, keep in mind, got their enlisted men from a 2-year draft, with mobilizations and demobs occurring every six months. That meant at any one time one quarter of the enlisted force was made up of greenies. And as a matter of military culture, the class next up for demob — the "makaronchiki" — used the greenies to do any actual work that was required. That's the system the Russers inherited, and that Putin's stuck with reforming. It hasn't been done yet, and may never be.
The incompetence was typically, horrifyingly Russian. With all of the nation's top anti-terror and special ops units on the scene, no one took charge. Units failed to coordinate with each other. No one took control of the local civilians. No one had a reaction plan in case things spun out of control. And when that terrorist bomb went off, the result was the chaos that Russians simultaneously dread, expect and bitterly accept. As the Russians themselves would put it, Beslan was a polni bardak. Which translates politely as an "utter bordello."
On the other hand, the very best troops in the world haven't been trained to rescue 1300 people from a school occupied by terrs when the bombs start going off and the shooting starts without warning.
What should concern us most as democracy advocates isn't that Putin's pulling off his sleight of hand to extend his power. What should appall us is that the great majority of the Russians shrug it off. Where are the pro-democracy demonstrations? Where is the hunger for freedom that supposedly lives in every human breast? Where is the courage?
I dunno. But I can see where the desire to be secure in one's home is, and the desire to have one's family protected is.
Experts and émigrés will make excuses: The Russian people are weary, they've experienced too much disorienting change . . . they want security, they've lost hope. Inevitably, we'll hear the charge that the West has let them down. Pundits will continue to mock President Bush's remark that he looked into Putin's soul and found it good. The real problem is that Putin looked into the soul of the Russian people and found it weak and willing to be subjugated. Freedom may be contagious, but entire populations appear to be inoculated against it.
The Russers are enjoying more personal freedom — individual liberty — than they've ever had, and some segments of the population veered unerringly toward license. They spent 75 years harping on the evils of plutocracy. When they stopped being commies they "knew" how plutocrats acted, so the commies became what they thought plutocrats were. And the government still managed to remain democratic, with dozens of parties, ranging from liberals to nutjobs to commies. Places like the Russian Far East made Chicago at its worst look tame. It was the threat to the man in the street, or more specifically to his kids, that brought about the tightening.
The truth is that Putin's initial reforms were necessary after the madcap corruption of the Yeltsin years.
I just said that, I think...
Just as Boris Yeltsin had been necessary to put the old regime's apparatchiki in their place, a man like Putin had to follow to prevent Russia from becoming nothing but the scene of the wildest looting orgy in history. But, like so many "presidents" around the world, Putin has become addicted to power. As a former KGB officer, it was probably too much to expect him to put much trust in democracy.
Bush the Elder used to be head of the CIA. I guess it was too much to expect him to put much trust in democracy. Putin's revulsion isn't toward democracy, though it's not something he loves more than chocolate. His revulsion is toward disorder.
On top of Russia's other problems, from the thorough ineptitude of its military and security forces to its abysmal health conditions, the country suffers from another terrible blight that has ravaged one developing country after another: Natural-resource wealth. The "unearned" income from Russia's oil and gas reserves has not only financed Putin's consolidation of power, it has allowed Russia to avoid difficult choices, serious structural reforms — and plain, old hard work. So the old question returns: Whither Russia? The answer appears to be that Russians are determined to be Russians. We will be allies in the War on Terror — but must be wary of the Kremlin's brutal excesses. Beyond that, we cannot force democracy on the Russian people if they are not willing to fight for it themselves.
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Posted by: Anonymous6579   2004-09-21 8:01:19 AM  

#21  Its always scary when I agree with Aris.

The correct way to go from a total state to a capitilist one is to follow the japanese example of creating an economic zone, rather than do it all at once. Democracy can follow in its footsteps, and you liberalize the country in chunks.

It gives you an opportunity to design the appropriate controls without the upset that russia has now.
Posted by: flash91   2004-09-21 8:01:56 PM  

#20  ... I've read elsewhere that part of the problem with the Russian Army is that they don't have as many non-commissioned officers as a comparable western army, and those they have don't have the authority those in (for instance) the US army have.

Essentially correct. Commissioned officers in the Russian military perform the leadership and other duties that a non-com normally does in other, Western, militaries (That situation is also found is many Arab militaries as well).
Posted by: Pappy   2004-09-21 7:28:17 PM  

#19  HiYa OP! How ya been?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-21 7:27:43 PM  

#18  The problem in Russia is there's no history of a middle class. There are only those in power and everyone else. The middle class is ESSENTIAL for any form of representative government to work. There has to be a reason to want to acquire and keep wealth, there has to be some way to generate that wealth for the majority of the people, and there has to be some way of acquiring power other than by force. This is all done in our nation (and in most nations where freedom prospers) by a middle class. Where the middle class is weak, governments are more powerful. Only when people are given the freedom to create wealth will they actually produce more than the minimum required of them. Until Russia develops a functioning middle class, it's going to be a muddle.

As for the difference between a pure democracy and a Republic, one has to revert back to the old story that a democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. The purpose of a Republic is to control the excesses of pure democracy, while still operating within the guidelines of democratic government. That means the checks and balances inherent in our Constitution, a written "Bill of Rights" that specifically prohibit government from doing certain things (Don't we wish it would actually adhere to it!), and an inherent trust in the rule of Law, rather than Power. The comments of several people here today underscore how poorly that idea is being taught today, and how few people understand what our government is supposed to be about. That's especially true of our government "officials".

Russia can adapt any form of government it chooses, but until there is a middle class with actual financial power to force change, it won't happen, and Russia and all its former states will fail to create a lasting government. The lack of a middle class is what causes all the failures of government in the Middle East and Latin America. There isn't enough wealth spread through the central portion of the economy to provide enough political power to secure that wealth and expand upon it. Until there is a viable middle class, and it has enough power in the form of wealth generation, the prospects of stable government anywhere in the world is minimal.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-09-21 6:36:37 PM  

#17  I didn't say he spread Greek *democracy*. But both Sparta and Athens were conquered by Alexander, and yet it was certainly the Attican, not the Lacedemonean dialect that lasted, the Attican dialect from which later derived the language of the gospels. All the plays, all the art, pretty much *everything* that lasted is Athenean, not Spartan.

Given how Sparta was even victorious over Athens in the war between them, doesn't that tell you something about civilisational value?

Byzantium was probably even less democratic than the late Roman Empire. But by that time we've probably already reached the true end of Ancient Greek civilisation. I described how Athenean culture survived Alexander and Rome, while Sparta's perished -- I didn't claim it was immortal.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-09-21 6:35:10 PM  

#16  jules: "We are disappointed that the West has ignored us. We need guidance on how to make our new countries strong and free, but when we seek counsel, there isn't anybody there. All the great intellects are gone already; who will guide us?" In this anti-American international climate, the problem only worsens, because our counsel is not valued.

No great loss. The counsel provided by US economists in the early years of eastern Europe's piratizations did little good. Latvia's problems are primarily due to corruption, only secondarily due to the Russian-Latvian and other political divides. Estonia points the way forward: reform the state, reduce the state, focus on export-oriented services.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-21 6:33:37 PM  

#15  Aris, I was unaware that Alexander spread Greek _democracy_ throughout his empire; he seemed to be a fairly strong believer in dictatorship, and his empire broke up into a bunch of monarchies founded by his generals (for instance, Ptolemaic Egypt).

I also thought that Byzantium was only as democratic as the late Roman Empire in general (i.e. not very, with hereditary classes and professions and the like).
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2004-09-21 6:13:20 PM  

#14  Perhaps Athens would have been now been considered as forgotten and trivial as minor Celtic or Iberian tribes that the Romans likewise conquered. *If* it hadn't been for its democracy.

So! But what have you done for us lately?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-21 6:05:59 PM  

#13  If the distinction makes no difference, Angie, then why, when asked what kind of government the Cosntitutional Convention had created, did Benjamin Franklin reply, "A Republic if you can keep it." instead of a Democracy, if you can keep it?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-09-21 6:05:07 PM  

#12  A hundred years later the Greeks were studying Macedonian.

Oy, vey. That last sentence brings me the historical shivers. Even if you believe Ancient Macedonians not to have been a Greek but rather a foreign tribe, one sure thing is that the ruling dynasty atleast (including, *especially*, Alexander the Great) were a great Hellenizing force promoting the *Greek* language everywhere they went or conquered.

Yeah, I know that was not your point, but perhaps it should have been: If it hadn't been for what Athenean democracy had created in the period before the Macedonian conquest, then perhaps the kings of Macedonia wouldn't have loved Greek culture so much. Perhaps in that case the Macedonian conquests *would* have destroyed Greek civilisation rather than spread it across Asia. If it hadn't been for that culture, perhaps the Romans would have likewise destroyed Greek civilisation rather than adopt it. Perhaps Athens would have been now been considered as forgotten and trivial as minor Celtic or Iberian tribes that the Romans likewise conquered. *If* it hadn't been for its democracy.

Now, Putin is creating an unloveable system, such as the Soviets had created before him, and the Czars had created before *them*. Doesn't he realize that unloveable systems only seem hard until they shatter in their entirety to be blown away in the wind?

Yeah, personal freedom rates above democracy. But democracy has so far been the best guarantee *against* violations of personal freedom. When democracy has been thoroughly destroyed unshielded it will be far too late to start building barracades towards the protection of liberty.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-09-21 5:08:14 PM  

#11  Hey, Fred, I just read your interspersed comments re: the Russian Army.

I have a question... I've read elsewhere that part of the problem with the Russian Army is that they don't have as many non-commissioned officers as a comparable western army, and those they have don't have the authority those in (for instance) the US army have. Is this true?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2004-09-21 4:27:42 PM  

#10  One comment I heard when I left Latvia haunted me. It is not unrelated to this thread.

When I asked Latvians and Russians living in Latvia how they felt about their future now that they were free of Soviet interference, I heard the following sentiments:

"We are disappointed that the West has ignored us. We need guidance on how to make our new countries strong and free, but when we seek counsel, there isn't anybody there. All the great intellects are gone already; who will guide us?"

In this anti-American international climate, the problem only worsens, because our counsel is not valued. That's the world's loss.
Posted by: jules 187   2004-09-21 2:57:31 PM  

#9  Russia today is not capitalist. First, the banking system is a joke. There's almost no commercial lending, and nearly all of Russian savings are either spirited abroad or kept under mattresses. So the prime function of a capitalist economy-- channelling savings into investments in order to realize returns and expand production and wealth-- barely exists.

Also consider that those 30 or so bandits who, in addition to the uber-thief Khodorkovsky, have locked up about 40% of Russia's wealth, are primarily asset-strippers. Rockefeller and his ilk invested in the US. Despite their brutality, they also created industries and markets and efficient, state-of-the-art businesses. Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, Fridman et al are merely channelling the cash flows from decrepit old former state resource companies into offshore accounts or playthings like soccer clubs.

This has nothing to do with capitalism; it's just another version of that grand game played in every failing, centralized nation: arbitrage the state. Whether the commodity in question is debt or oil or timber or municipal water supplies, the goal is to buy cheap from the state and sell dear on the private (usually overseas) market. Hardly capitalism.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-21 2:29:49 PM  

#8  Russia is a failing state propped up by $40.bbl oil. When the oil price comes back down to earth, the Russian economy will collapse and the state will be revealed yet again as a shambles.

Think of Russia as Pakistan North, only with white faces and black shirts. The only really functioning part of Russia is the Moscow consumer economy, which gives you an idea of the inevitable reversion of the country into a reasonably functioning, westernized Muscovite core surrounded by bandit-controlled fiefdoms, and with a Chinese-dominated Far East region.

Posted by: lex   2004-09-21 2:02:28 PM  

#7  The USA is not a democracy...

I have never understood people who make this argument. Technically you're correct, but it's a distinction without a difference, in this context. You're arguing that somehow inherent in the definition of "republic" is a Constitution and respect for individual rights. This is not true.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2004-09-21 1:02:26 PM  

#6  Would you be suprised that most Russians say that they had a better life under communism in the Soviet Union? And they would be right.
So why the surprise when these people now show little enthusiasm for democracy and capitalism?
It's easier to sing the praises of democracy and capitalism when you've had it for 300 years.

The big challenge is to convince them that it is better to stay the course of democracy and capitalism then to revert at some point to the old days. And that won't be easy.
The good news is, the kids (not to mention the nouveau rich) born since 1991 have had a taste of what democracy and capitalism can offer, and one hopes that they will not want to give it up easily.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-09-21 12:41:53 PM  

#5  Actually, democracy is unlimited rule of the majority.

The best government system is the American form, a republic limited by its constitution and by a bill of individual rights. The USA is not a democracy -- and that should tell you something about the party that calls itself "democrat". The Founding Fathers very explicitly fought to create a Republic, not a Democracy.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-09-21 12:10:54 PM  

#4  Editors, troll cleanup on Aisle _1_, Repeat, Aisle _1_... it's screwing up the screen formatting.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2004-09-21 8:38:48 AM  

#3  The incompetence was typically, horrifyingly Russian. With all of the nation’s top anti-terror and special ops units on the scene, no one took charge. Units failed to coordinate with each other. No one took control of the local civilians. No one had a reaction plan in case things spun out of control.

Though that may be true, it seems a bit disingenuous. Little could have been done to achieve a happy ending here...even if our own highly trained units were on site.

Seems to me that Peter's is making a big stretch to say they don't want democracy. I think the Russians just realize that terror is a more immediate threat.
Posted by: 2B   2004-09-21 8:10:18 AM  

#2  thought provoking - I should have guessed it was Peters.
Posted by: 2B   2004-09-21 8:04:00 AM  

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Posted by: Anonymous6579 TROLL   2004-09-21 8:01:19 AM  

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