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Israel-Palestine
Isrealis kill 14 Hamas in strike
2004-09-07
Israeli helicopters attacked a Hamas training camp in Gaza City today, killing at least 14 people in the deadliest air strike on Palestinian militants in four years of violence.
14 people, not 14 Hamas terrorists.
The army said it struck a camp Hamas used to train militants in firing mortars and rockets. In the past month, Hamas assembled a large bomb and a suicide bomber's explosives belt at the training camp, the army added.
Those Jews always killing people!
In Gaza, children stayed home from school today and shops remained closed in a sign of mourning. Black smoke billowed over the city as students burned tyres at spontaneous demonstrations.
Back in school, we had snow days. In Gaza, they have revenge days.
During the past four years of fighting, Israel has frequently targeted Palestinian militants with air strikes and other military operations. But the strikes are usually aimed at very specific targets — usually senior members of the group or militants on their way to an attack. Today's attack was the first time the army had targeted such a large gathering of militants. At least five helicopter missiles pounded the Hamas camp in the Shajaiyeh section of Gaza City shortly after midnight. There was pandemonium at Gaza's Shifa Hospital as casualties arrived in ambulances and cars. Blood-spattered Palestinians carried dead and wounded into the emergency room, while others went straight to the morgue carrying plastic bags with body parts. Hundreds of angry Palestinians, many of them members of the Hamas military wing with blood on their clothes, gathered outside, shouting "Revenge, revenge". "This bloody crime is a new wave of aggression committed against our people and against our sons," said Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri. "It's an ongoing war. One day for us and one day for them." Palestinian officials said all 14 of the dead were Hamas members, although only 11 had been identified by midmorning.
14 people, not 14 active terrorists.
The Hamas military wing said Israel had struck a "scouts camp where a group of fighters was training" and pledged revenge.
Posted by:gromky

#29  Correction to 'Anonymous6344' above, that's me, the one and only. I know that no one here would have ever guessed it.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-07 10:29:00 AM  

#28  This article was posted earlier with a hateful twist, and here with poster's comments minus the hate -- how refreshing. Now let's hear the Zionists on this board scream about "Those Jews always killing people!" calling it anti-Semitic.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-07 9:29:46 AM  

#27  There's a superb play-by-play account of this terrorist fiasco that I'll be posting after the changeover tonight. That way, we can all share the joy for another whole day.

When you think of how close Israel got to parity (14 Hamas vs. 16 Israelis) and, more importantly, how many other Israeli lives were saved by snuffing these murderers before they got their bomb vests on, it's almost enough to make you cheer. Job well done (as in thoroughly roasted Hamas long pig), Israel!
Posted by: Zenster   2004-09-07 10:20:38 PM  

#26  The part that I resent is that under Zionist control..

What little shred of credibility you MAY have had just went sailing out the window.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-09-07 8:05:41 PM  

#25  UFO, So the answer is to let Jihadists train and attack before we (or anyone else) should try and stop them? Wow you really need to join the Kerry Kamp. That is just the kind of logic that let terrorists come to America, Train, and they fly jets into the twin towers. That is if you believe that story. I think what Israel did was not only right but should be repeated on ALL Islamofacists organizations. Kill them BEFORE they have a chance to attack us! Our survival depends on that strategy.
P.S. Stick the 'International Law' in your ear!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-09-07 4:58:37 PM  

#24  Boris only pays attention to child pornography, VAMark.
Posted by: BMN   2004-09-07 4:51:02 PM  

#23   And there's the whistle...

Final score:
IDF Fighting Falcons 14
Hamas Boomers 0.
Posted by: 98zulu   2004-09-07 3:37:53 PM  

#22  #12: The terrorists have already granted themselves that right - think about it. Their actions identify them as the equivalent of mad dogs. They have long since abandoned the constraints of civilization and with them the protection of the legalisms you cling to. I'll say it again, when they join the war on civilization, their actions make their lives forfeit.

#21: No one who has paid any real attention to the events of the last 20 years can honestly believe that if Israel ceased to exist tomorrow the goals and actions of the Death Cult would change one iota. Israel and the Paleostinians are one of their excuses, not their cause.
Posted by: VAMark   2004-09-07 3:05:18 PM  

#21  RC, the article speaks of terrorists as defined by Israel which doesn't obey either International Law or UN resolutions, therefore your argument fails. The part that I resent is that under Zionist control US supports Israel in the UN Security Council and invites retaliation by injured parties, call them whatever you want.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-07 2:26:57 PM  

#20  I doubt they let UFOOL work drive-through. He's probably on the grill.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-09-07 2:06:39 PM  

#19  Those are some big, convoluted words there, UFOOL. Bet you impress the shit out of babes while you're handing them their orders at the drive through window.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-09-07 1:07:51 PM  

#18  Yoofoe:

Hamas thugs have the right to remain dead, and are using it.
Posted by: mojo   2004-09-07 12:15:27 PM  

#17  "Trainees" are co-conspirators. Supporters are also co-conspirators. Any business or facility (schools too) closed in sympathy should be leveled immediately.

Tolerance just leads to more deaths.
Posted by: flash91   2004-09-07 11:31:52 AM  

#16  serfs make the best trolls, it's like shooting fish in a barrell.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-07 11:16:34 AM  

#15  What the hell was #12 supposed to mean? I've read it twice and can't make heads or tails of it. Hang around a terrorist training camp, and don't be surprised if you're judged by the company you keep. Toop bad it was only fourteen.
Posted by: dls   2004-09-07 11:11:16 AM  

#14  Boris, let me state it again, another way: Membership in a terrorist organization is sufficient to remove a person from the human race, making that person subject to death whenever and where ever civilized men can find them.

There's nothing bizarre or novel about this; it's the traditional -- and accepted -- way to deal with groups that place themselves outside of all laws. The Geneva Convention, for example, is quite clear that it applies only to those who have signed on to it (terrorists have not) and who abide by its rules (again, terrorists do not).

And, no, the "defendant" (your word; I'd call them terrorists to be perfectly clear) does not have the same "right". I am abiding by laws and civilization, so I am still entitled to their protection; the terrorists, by joining organizations that openly commit atrocities, have abandoned their claim for protection under law.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-09-07 11:11:05 AM  

#13  Boris--

Why are you so illiterate? Is there some subhuman syntax book every jewhater has to study before posting on Rantburg?
Posted by: BMN   2004-09-07 11:01:10 AM  

#12  VA, you are fomenting forejudgement aggrevated by proposing the execution of sentence which in this case is death, depriving the defendant of the right to appeal -- now that you have stated your positionn, doesn't he have the same right, especially since you are placing yoursels above the law -- think about it.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-07 10:52:39 AM  

#11  Yeah, I know. This is like Hamas's version of Junior Achievement, right? They all just wanna grow up and run cement plants, like all the big shots, right?
Posted by: tu3031   2004-09-07 10:47:12 AM  

#10  The Hamas military wing said Israel had struck a “scouts camp where a group of fighters was training” and pledged revenge.

Sorry boys, but this is revenge for Beersheba.

The only thing that disappointed me about this attack is that more Hamas members weren't killed.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-09-07 10:36:47 AM  

#9  I posted the earlier "hateful twist" article, and all I can say is: if Boris doesn't like it I musta done something verrrry right
Posted by: Frank G   2004-09-07 10:34:25 AM  

#8  Members of terrorist organizations -- whether they're "in training" or not -- may be freely killed whenever and whereever they're found. They are protected by NO laws or treaties ever written by civilized man.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-09-07 10:32:36 AM  

#7  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-07 10:29:00 AM  

#6  Trainees are civilians my ass. We're past the point where we wait for them to do an operation first. Train with the Death Cult branch of your choice and your life is forfeit.
Posted by: VAMark   2004-09-07 10:25:55 AM  

#5  tu, "trainees" are civilians, or as stated above, "not active terrorists", but above all, the poster does not incite hatred by expessing his own hate toward another human being. Further, sarcasm does not incite hatred, if anything, it lightens the tone of a morbid message.
Posted by: Anonymous6344   2004-09-07 10:22:51 AM  

#4  serfian logic, how's the reconquest of Kosovo coming along little fella?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-07 10:13:24 AM  

#3  Better watch it, Gromky. UFOOL thinks you're his buddy. Doesn't appear to have grasped that "sarcasm" concept yet.
I know it's early, but can I have fries with that, UFOOL?
Posted by: tu3031   2004-09-07 9:56:01 AM  

#2  Why yes, they're people, (two arms, legs, etc.) or at least they were.
Posted by: chicago mike   2004-09-07 9:36:39 AM  

#1  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-07 9:29:46 AM  

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