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Russian TV shows hostage-taker
2004-09-05
Russian TV has shown pictures of a man who is believed to have been one of the hostage-takers at the school in the southern town of Beslan. Channel One state television showed the man being dragged into a room by two masked commandoes. His hands cuffed and locked behind his back, he makes a plea to the camera. It is the very first evidence provided by the Russian authorities to back up their claim to have captured three of the hostage-takers alive. In the footage, shown on Sunday evening, the man, whose accent strongly suggests he is from the region and not a foreigner, makes a plea to the camera. "I really didn't go there to die and I still don't want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.
Grovel, you cowardly rat bastard!
The presenter says the alleged hostage-taker was trying to escape when the special forces caught him. He had apparently shaved off his beard and was trying to flee with the liberated hostages. The report was highly triumphalist and ended with images of the corpses of the dead hostage-takers crawling with flies.
That's the image I'd want to see if I was a Russer. Matter of fact, I'd find it comforting regardless...
The reports may go some way to reassuring ordinary Russians, many of whom are confused by the contradictory messages about casualty figures and exactly what happened in Beslan. The incident has been a massive embarrassment for the Kremlin, but the message from state television tonight is that everything is now under control.
I don't know why it's an "embarrassment" to the Kremlin. I'd more call it a clear-eyed look at who the enemy is. Hopefully the Russian people will be behind an impending campaign to exterminate them. But I'll wager when it comes, the Russians won't target the Islamsists' children.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#12  OS - that reminds me of the part of the Patton speech.

You know, by god I, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by god, I do. We're not just going to shoot the bastards; we're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks.

Not a good time to be anyone the Russians think had anything to do with this atrocity.
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2004-09-05 11:18:59 PM  

#11  "I really didn’t go there to die and I still don’t want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.

You'll change your mind, you bastard. Soon, you will beg for death.
Posted by: BH   2004-09-05 11:11:14 PM  

#10  Don't ask me how I know such things.

Uh-uh. No sir. Not me.
You got any daughters, OS? Must've been a hoot when you got to meet the boyfriends for the first time.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-09-05 10:50:51 PM  

#9  Tony, hate to burst your bubble, but...

Electrical devices dont leave much of a mark, and rubber hose marks could be concealed easily by his clothing.

This also discounts needle marks from cutaenous (into the skin right into the layer where the nerve endings are, not below it) injection of various substances - there are common field expedients like Capsaicin (good ol Tabasco, or Tiger Balm) readily available, with target areas like the armpits, soles of the feet, scrotum and tissues around the pudendum and anus, and directly into the urethra.

Don't ask me how I know such things. The US doesn't use them. But there was once this group known as the 8th Department of the First Chief Directorate of the Commitee for State Security, and they would come up with a lot of rather inventive "field expedient" methods of interrogation in Afghanistan in the 1980's.

Except now they will not be nearly as restrained - htis is thier home they are defending.

I actually pity these guys - with this kind of wanton slaughter of children, Putin will take the gloves off. And he still probably still has his phone book from his days as a KGB man.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-09-05 10:44:12 PM  

#8  Notice that he doesn't look like he's been kicked all over, or bayonetted, or blown to bits. He even looks like he's had some water, maybe even food.

I commend the Russians who *didn't* decide to shove a knife up his arse, and turn it. This filth needs to be seen bleating for its life, then sucked dry of all the information they can get from it, then do something inventive like Barbara is suggesting.
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2004-09-05 9:59:47 PM  

#7  "I really didn’t go there to die and I still don’t want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.

He held children at gunpoint and under threat of bombs. By any sane set of laws, he's one of their murderers.

Find an electric fence charger and slowly burn every scrap of flesh from his body. It won't be nearly enough pain to compensate, but it will be a start.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-09-05 9:52:34 PM  

#6  This weasely coward wants to live?

So did those children.

I hope his death is slow and painful, and he's sent back to his family from 10,000 feet.

Strapped to a bomb.

Wrapped in bacon and pig fat.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-09-05 8:23:31 PM  

#5  He wants to live? Well hell I want a better pony!
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-05 7:35:29 PM  

#4  "I really didn’t go there to die and I still don’t want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.

I don't think Allah has much of a say in it at this point, not so brave jihadi.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-09-05 7:35:15 PM  

#3  Too quick and merciful.
Posted by: bloodthirsty broad on this occasion   2004-09-05 7:06:10 PM  

#2  Damn, they didn't saw his head off?
Posted by: Ptah   2004-09-05 7:04:59 PM  

#1  In the footage, shown on Sunday evening, the man, whose accent strongly suggests he is from the region and not a foreigner, makes a plea to the camera.

"I really didn’t go there to die and I still don’t want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.


To the jihadi ( and paraphrasing a line from a movie ):

I won't lie to you about your chances, but you have my sympathy
Posted by: badanov   2004-09-05 7:03:05 PM  

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