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| NY Begins Enforcing Old Law Forbidding Illegal Driver's Licenses | ||
| 2004-08-19 | ||
| From The New York Times .... officials at the [New York] State Department of Motor Vehicles have begun a crackdown on license fraud that will take away the driver's licenses of as many as 200,000 immigrants who cannot prove that they are here legally. There was scant reaction in January when the state started mailing out the first of a half-million letters threatening to suspend the licenses of drivers whose Social Security numbers did not match federal records.
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| Posted by:Mike Sylwester |
| #18 Point taken Frank G. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I made a judgement call on these particular (probable) illegals, and stand by it. It's unlikely that a housekeeper and her husband (I forget what he did for a living) are involved in killings, rapes, or auto thefts, particularly when you consider that they were in the market for a new home. Criminals are more likely to plot their next crime rather than go shopping for home loans. |
| Posted by: Chris W. 2004-08-19 11:56:28 PM |
| #17 your average Latin illegal is not a threat to our national security and it is therefore not Priority #1 for me to turn them in, particularly when it can affect my future business dealings. well, Chris your avg Mooslim illegal may not be a threat either, it's the extremes (here in So. cal we have a lot of crimes: killings, rapes, auto theft - BIG!) by illegals that hurt and kill Americans. Turn em in |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-19 11:02:06 PM |
| #16 rex: Yes, illegal IS illegal. But you have to understand that these were potential clients, and they have friends who might be looking for mortgages too. I am against illegals as much as anyone, but your average Latin illegal is not a threat to our national security and it is therefore not Priority #1 for me to turn them in, particularly when it can affect my future business dealings. That being said, I would LOVE to see the illegal problem stopped, but since it's been going on for soooo loooong it is not practical to deny "benign" illegals such as Mexicans. Start with terrorists and their co-conspirators, and work on the rest of the problem once we secure ourselves against the worst of them. |
| Posted by: Chris W. 2004-08-19 10:43:11 PM |
| #15 Bitch now, because after the next hit, it's going to be time to stop bitching and start shooting. I don't have a problem with it. Our national security is of paramount importance, the "services" of illegals be damned. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-19 10:34:09 PM |
| #14 I expect another terror attack within five weeks. If that fails, we'll get one within six months for certain, even if it's a pinprick. The Wahabbis HAVE to, or lose all credibility. When it happens, we'll probably learn that the majority of the people involved, and most of the explosives used, came across our southern border, undetected. There will probably also be some indication they had help from one or more group in Mexico. How we respond will determine if we remain a sovereign power or become just another "used to be great nation". I'm working on a proposal that doesn't have a snowball's chance of being approved at the moment, but that will shut down our southern border to illegals in 30 days after the next attack. It's going to involve a lot of sacrifice from a lot of people, including probably a half-dozen readers in this forum. Bitch now, because after the next hit, it's going to be time to stop bitching and start shooting. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2004-08-19 9:48:11 PM |
| #13 My line is they get screwed by Boxer, Feinstein, Portnoy Stark, Don Edwards, Dan Burton, Anna Achoo, et al every time they pick up an illegal. For all I know the Central Valley Republicans don't want theri cheap labor threatened either. No matter. In 20-40 years, Caliphornia will secceed democratically to be reunited with the mother country. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-08-19 5:46:02 PM |
| #12 The INS would not do crap if you turned in an illegal. I know because I have done itb repeatedly. Their line is "they don't have the manpower. My line they don't have the will. I live in California BTW. |
| Posted by: FlameBait93268 2004-08-19 5:41:55 PM |
| #11 in CA the Assembly Dems are still trying to get CA Drivers Licenses for illegals. And the SJ Mercury News is throwing their two cents in also. On today's opinion page, there's a piece titled "Give illegal immigrants licenses -- with a difference". Got that? Now get a load of the header: "COMPROMISE WOULD PROVIDE SAFETY, RECOGNIZE CITIZENSHIP" "Citizenship"? Say what? What are these people smoking???? The only thing that stopped me from calling the Feds was the fact that she was Hispanic instead of Arab. Wouldn't have stopped me. An illegal alien is an illegal alien regardless of what their ethnicity is. Now whether the INS would have actually taken action is certainly up for debate... |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-19 5:07:49 PM |
| #10 I've written it before and I'll write it again, the activists have had 3 years to have been part of the solution, they have chosen to be part of the problem. When the next attack comes and/even if it (doesn't) does involve coming over either border, the border will be sealed. To be blunt, Hispanics will find out how much pull they really have. |
| Posted by: Anonymous2u 2004-08-19 3:33:57 PM |
| #9 As in no longer a |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-19 2:07:37 PM |
| #8 Maybe she'd gotten better... |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-19 2:04:56 PM |
| #7 The only thing that stopped me from calling the Feds was the fact that she was Hispanic instead of Arab So what is the difference? The lady was ILLEGAL and she was using FORGED documents, so she was financing other illegal operations in our nation. This lady broke our laws 2x over. Sorry, #6, but illegal is illegal. |
| Posted by: rex 2004-08-19 2:02:13 PM |
| #6 Late in 2001 I had a mortgage applicant who worked as a housekeeper at the airport hotel. The SSN showing on her paystubs belonged to a DEAD PERSON according to all three credit bureaus. Hmmm. Fake SSN, working at airport, likely illegal. The only thing that stopped me from calling the Feds was the fact that she was Hispanic instead of Arab (but that's profiling on my part, and profiling is WRONG...). |
| Posted by: Chris W. 2004-08-19 1:33:00 PM |
| #5 I wonder if New York's policy has something to do with recent events in that state... |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-08-19 12:09:42 PM |
| #4 Note, this is about ILLEGAL ALIENS and not IMMIGRANTS at all. I (myself) refuse to call them IMMIGRANTS since they are here illegally and have not been granted 'immigrant' status. Good for new York State. Looks like we are starting to take some tiny baby steps in the right direction.... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-08-19 12:06:53 PM |
| #3 in CA the Assembly Dems are still trying to get CA Drivers Licenses for illegals. Arnold to date, has refused to sign it unless the illegals are required to pass background checks and their CDL's would clearly distinguish them as illegals (through different colors or notations/marks). Gil Cedillo and other Dem activist legislators don't want that... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-19 12:00:29 PM |
| #2 There was scant reaction in January when the state started mailing out the first of a half-million letters threatening to suspend the licenses of drivers whose Social Security numbers did not match federal records. Why'd they wait all this time to do this checking? Checking a person's identity has to be the FIRST THING before going any further. Can't these government officials and employees use their heads for a change? Fear and protest spread in places like Westchester County and Staten Island as the letters reached longtime immigrant drivers who depend on their cars to work as landscapers, construction workers or housecleaners. And the outcry grew as immigrant advocates learned of cases in which bewildered immigrants who responded in person to motor vehicle offices had their licenses confiscated on the spot for lack of a Social Security number. Tough. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-19 11:34:55 AM |
| #1 Lok for California to start offering mail order SSN's for illegals in New York. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-08-19 11:08:16 AM |