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| Kill scientists, says animal rights chief |
| 2004-07-28 |
| A top adviser to Britain's two most powerful animal rights protest groups caused outrage last night by claiming that the assassination of scientists working in biomedical research would save millions of animals' lives. To the fury of groups working with animals, Jerry Vlasak, a trauma surgeon and prominent figure in the anti-vivisection movement, told The Observer: 'I think violence is part of the struggle against oppression. If something bad happens to these people [animal researchers], it will discourage others. It is inevitable that violence will be used in the struggle and that it will be effective.' Vlasak, who likens animal experimentation to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews, said he stood by his claim that: 'I don't think you'd have to kill too many [researchers]. I think for five lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human lives. |
| Posted by:Super Hose |
| #8 RKB, One of my biggest strikes against Islam is that they hate dogs. But to your final point, it's not that they don't see the value. They love the fruits of Western Civ. They just hate the fact that you and I get to make our own decisions about how we live our lives. That is the most unforgivable sin of all. |
| Posted by: Dreadnought 2004-07-28 8:55:09 PM |
| #7 I'm not surprised by this. I'm a small-scale occasional breeder of showdogs and we've been under dirty tricks attacks and stealth legislation launches from these guys for years. I've been told to my face that my 5 dogs here, who are loved members of the family, lounge on the couch and have a 1.5 acre fenced property to run on, would be better of dead on the highway than subject to my cruel oppression of them. These guys are also allied with the Earth Liberation Front, which has already committed serious arson and endangered logger lives deliberately. Sometimes I think they, like the Islamacists, would be happy destroying western civilization ... they see no value in it or in human lives. |
| Posted by: rkb 2004-07-28 4:15:47 PM |
| #6 So, Dr. Vlasak, what will your response be when a prominent research scientist states that targeted assassinations against animal rights activists is the only way to keep science moving forward? Shock? Outrage? Spluttering demands to cease personal attacks? Get Hillary to decry The Politics of Personal Destruction? Kind of like jihadis. Happy to be shooting at folks. Always surprised to be shot at. WhadIdo? |
| Posted by: dreadnought 2004-07-28 2:15:37 PM |
| #5 #4 Zen, did you see the excerpt from the State Department Press Driefing on the MEK protected status? Evidently, "protected" is a Geneva term that doesn't imply "pardonned" for their terrorist activity. "The MEK continues to be a designated foreign terrorist organization," he said. "We will continue to treat individuals who can be determined to have been involved in terrorist incidents with the MEK consistent with the laws that apply." Ereli noted that each of the 3,800 militia members were now being vetted to determine if they had been involved in terrorist incidents and those implicated in attacks would be dealt with under applicable laws. Very strange, SH, very strange. The recruiting light is on ... |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-07-28 5:34:51 AM |
| #4 Give the man a bigger microphone. He does more damage to his cause each time he opens his yap than any possible conservative speaker could do. Zen, did you see the excerpt from the State Department Press Driefing on the MEK protected status? Evidently, "protected" is a Geneva term that doesn't imply "pardonned" for their terrorist activity. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2004-07-28 4:04:25 AM |
| #3 "Kill all the politicians and everybody is happy. Kill all the engineers and everybody dies." - Buckminster Fuller - |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-07-28 3:56:21 AM |
| #2 How on earth can a trauma surgeon say this kind of nonsense? If he were an American, I'd lead a charge to have his medical license censured. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2004-07-28 12:37:52 AM |
| #1 Geez, talk about reality-challenged. Hey, I can understand some aspects of the PETA people's "feeling", but they never include a justification for homicide. So help us out, cousins, what does UK law say? Given some of the legal "flexibility" we've seen there, wouldn't this fit under some "hate crime" law or similar? Most such unambiguous calls for violence are prohibited somehow or someway - it would be interesting to see it applied to the loonies for a change. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-28 12:34:48 AM |