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| 2004-07-12 |
| Posted by:Anonymous2U |
| #7 B-A-R Since we've moved on to a new Rantburg day, you probably won't see this. But just in case-- and because I generaly agree with you.... What you say about the distortion of the Repub position as "anti-immigrant" is quite true. And I remember being so disgusted by the anti-187 ads that I nearly voted for it just for spite. But that, alas, is the way things go in modern Ami politics. And so-- yeah-- Repubs are forced to walk on eggshells on any number of "sensitive" issues, or find themselves out of power. Sadly, that's just life. As for the up-ending of 187 by the 9th circuit, that was a travesty of judicial activism. And my opinion was and is that (although I didn't like the law)it should have stood 'cuz the people had plainly spoken. But that said, 187 was lousey public policy-- in my opinion-- and it doesn't show that it's good public policy to point out that public officials weren't doing anything about the problem of illegal immigration. Unless you think that a bad law is preferable to no law at all-- which I don't. Best to you! |
| Posted by: Wuzzalib 2004-07-13 12:50:04 AM |
| #6 Whatever you think of prop 187 as public policy-- I thought it was dumb,.. Why should it have been? Nobody in the government was going to do anything about it, so what next? Sit on our hands? Seems to me the situation was somewhat similar to Prop 13 many long years ago. ..and voted against it-- there is no denying that Wilson's support of the measure did serious damage to the Reublican Party in California. Only because the Repubs LET the PC crowd, Latino immigration advocates, and other sundry illegal alien supporters paint the measure and its supporters as "anti-immigrant", just like the LA Times is doing in this article, instead of anti-ILLEGAL immigrant, which is what it was. And furthermore, despite these same groups' efforts, Prop 187 actually PASSED. The only success they enjoyed was through a lawsuit, the hallmark of a sore loser. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-12 8:21:11 PM |
| #5 The Manhattan Institute is a very solid right-of-center think tank and Tamar Jacoby is no PC fool. Whatever you think of prop 187 as public policy-- I thought it was dumb, and voted against it-- there is no denying that Wilson's support of the measure did serious damage to the Reublican Party in California. |
| Posted by: Wuzzalib 2004-07-12 8:01:48 PM |
| #4 Thanks for the link. And the headline is misleading.... It should be 'Anti-ILLEGAL-immigration...' Don't you just love the LA Times? Enter the backers of the PAN initiative. They have ample outside support — the Washington-based Federation for American Immigration Reform spent nearly $450,000 in recent weeks to gather signatures for the measure. And they've done some savvy strategizing, wrapping the provision on state services in a second, far more reasonable clause requiring that people registering to vote in Arizona prove they are U.S. citizens. Meanwhile, the initiative's most objectionable article — making it a misdemeanor, punishable by jail time, for any state employee in any agency or institution to fail to report illegal immigrants applying for services — is buried in the fine print. I LOVE it! |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-07-12 7:30:57 PM |
| #3 PC fever! Catch it! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-07-12 6:20:32 PM |
| #2 Heh, I just love that headline: "Anti-Immigrant Fever in Arizona". Oh, and btw, this is the article's URL. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-12 6:10:41 PM |
| #1 Yuck! Registered site (LA Times). Also link doesn't work (even if you are able to login) Cyberpunks/Cyberpunks works for me. Can't find the artice. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-07-12 4:48:53 PM |