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Investigative Report: Saddam’s WMD Have Been Found
2004-04-27
EFL...Salt to flavor
New evidence out of Iraq suggests that the U.S. effort to track down Saddam Hussein’s missing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) is having better success than is being reported. Key assertions by the intelligence community that were widely judged in the media and by critics of President George W. Bush as having been false are turning out to have been true after all. But this stunning news has received little attention from the major media, and the president’s critics continue to insist that "no weapons" have been found.
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#88  Zionism's essential goal was and is to change Judaism from a religious to a political entity.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 9:43:04 PM  

#87  Well no Saddam would have killed him. I do not believe in Capital Punishment so I think prison for life is sufficient(parole possible if prisoner shows remorse) Of course those children should not have been attacked.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 8:49:12 PM  

#86  Re killing Al-Sadr no. Re Jewish children I said ALL children Jewish Christian(fill in religion here) so your statement is beneath contempt. Where have I said Saddam makes me hot????
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 8:40:23 PM  

#85  Well maybe your dream will come true Jen the fine dinner part that is not the rest. I start work at 12pm today and I will be shopping and visiting Mum soon.Don't let George drink too much.It sure looks safer in Iraq(lots of sarcasm)you know Al-Sadr etc. HE would not have lasted two minutes with Saddam as President.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 8:25:07 PM  

#84  Cingold those little children should not have to suffer. They are only innocent as are ALL little children in the Middle East and elsewhere.YOU are a Zionazi.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 8:19:22 PM  

#83  Have you met Mr Bush Jen? Maybe you and George and Laura can have dinner some evening and celebrate the lives he and you by your support have ruined in Iraq. Shipman enjoy your day I will not be celebrating it obviously.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 8:13:59 PM  

#82  Jen a fool and her money are soon parted. Did you send George and Laura a card too? Shipman hi but ???????????????
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 8:06:01 PM  

#81  I know you will vote for GWB Jen. But as you stand in the booth pencil and ballot slip in hand please consider that maybe you are not making the best decision. You ACTUALLY sent HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS??????.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 7:48:20 PM  

#80  I am not a terrorist Jen. Islam may not appeal to you as a religion fine,do not convert from Christianity then. There is no need to be so Prejudiced. Stop listening to Mr Bush.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 7:37:00 PM  

#79  Jen the people living in the Holy Land CONVERTED to Islam in the 8th century (not all of course). 90% Zionist eh? Who are the 10% here who are not zionists(apart from me)?
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 7:28:05 PM  

#78  Oh and yes how can someone support Hitler AND Stalin????
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 7:16:10 PM  

#77  You DID look at the websites didn't you? I did NOT say I like dead Jews I SAID I do not believe the Zionist Entity should exist, the only solution for peace is for it to go. Jews lived peacefully with their Christian and Muslim neighbours in The Holy Land and hopefully can again.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 7:13:13 PM  

#76  Well you obviously DON'T.There are OTHER Jewish websites too True Torah Jews(jewsagainstzionism.com)THEY are Jews and against zionism as well.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 6:55:19 PM  

#75  Take a look at Neturei Karta(nkusa.org)it is a JEWISH website. That,s all.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 6:44:28 PM  

#74  I am in about five mins it's all set. I HAVE seen it before and found it interesting. Yes Saddam had his faults but how does this justify the invasion and occupation of a sovreign nation which has cost countless lives and caused endless suffering.Re Jude Suss look at Nkusa.org and then comment.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 12:06:26 PM  

#73  There were/are no wmds in Iraq.They had old worn out conventional weapons never mind anything else. Now the US army is QUITE another story ALL the latest weaponry conventional or otherwise. Rest assured your army is the best and that is NOT a compliment.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-27 11:52:20 AM  

#72  "Zionism's essential goal was and is to change Judaism from a religious to a political entity."
No. That would be Al Queda and Islam.
The state of Israel isn't an "entity;" it's a nation, recognized since its founding by the US and the U.N.
Get used to it.
And if you can't, do what Halfass Pete said.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 10:42:32 PM  

#71  antiwar, go fuck yourself
Posted by: Halfass Pete   2004-04-27 10:38:58 PM  

#70  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 9:43:04 PM  

#69  Antiwar, what is your definition of Zionism? Just checking. We might be talking about different things here.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-04-27 9:06:35 PM  

#68  remote,

Quite so. Sorry.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 9:02:17 PM  

#67  BMN: I know...I live in the SF Bay area and I love to stir it up with the local idiotarians. Their arguments are vacuous and they resort to name calling almost immediately. That said, Anti's schtick is getting tired. She adds nothing and won't go away unless ignored.
Posted by: remote man   2004-04-27 8:58:52 PM  

#66  Antiwar is right when it says "There is no need to be so Prejudiced. Stop listening to Mr Bush." Americans have stopped listening to him on the issue of Islam but he keeps on trouting the same old tired lies. Religion of Peace my ass.
Posted by: ruprecht   2004-04-27 8:58:11 PM  

#65  Err! I doubt AntiWar is for real. Her/his contrived linguistic style is a give away.
Posted by: Phil B   2004-04-27 8:56:32 PM  

#64  Remote man, you have a point. But there's something irresistable about hearing her drone on and on, as from a script. Neuterei Karta! God, how it brings me back.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 8:55:03 PM  

#63  Ah, then what's your solution to the al-Sadrs of the world? Back in the 80s, PC lefties like you were all in favor of the Islamic Revolution in Iran from whence the al-Sadrs came. After the Gulf War, you all favored Saddam and seem to like him still (apparently he's better then the al-Qaeda Islamofascists, though he had his own brand of Islamofascism he was pushing). So what's your solution to the nutcase Islamofreaks running around, besides killing every Jew in the Middle East?
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 8:53:18 PM  

#62  When I started coming to RB, there were regular posts of DON'T FEED THE TROLLS when that doped up jackass would post horse caca in the middle of the night. Anti-war is an idiot, plain and simple. She wears a tin foil hat over her mop of hair. He "Mum" is probably pounding the Rolaids as we speak trying not to barf up her lunch listening to the crap coming out of her daughter.

Fred is going in for surgery. Taking up his bandwidth crossing swords with this complete moron is a waste for all involved. So I will implore you all as I have been taught on RB...DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!
Posted by: remote man   2004-04-27 8:50:21 PM  

#61  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 8:49:12 PM  

#60  You've never been to the Middle East have you, "Anti"war? Have you ever been out of Australia? What about across the street?
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 8:45:21 PM  

#59  killing Al-Sadr no

HE would not have lasted two minutes with Saddam as President

Saddam would have captured him and rehabilitated al-Sadr, then?
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 8:43:47 PM  

#58  Go ahead, Anti . . . I dare you. I double dare you! Condemn the islamofascist twerps who threw rocks at a kindergarten.
Posted by: cingold   2004-04-27 8:42:48 PM  

#57  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 8:40:23 PM  

#56  Antiwar, get off your high horse. You’re no peace lover. You showed your true colors yesterday (see here for yesterday’s hateful name calling and ill wishing by Antiwar, amidst a lot of other rubbish -- e.g., still no real criticism from Antiwar against *islamofascists* regarding the Jerusalem Kindergarten Targeted in Rock Attack incident -- just vague drivel about "suffering." Let's hear some real condemnation directed against islamofascists of the rock thrower type -- I mean, given how Antiwar abuses RBers who challenge her/him, s/he's got it to give). Face it, Antiwar, you are just an islamofascist apologist. As for the future of your “movement” (New Age or not), I like the picture you were shown yesterday.

We will finish the war the islamofascists started.
Posted by: cingold   2004-04-27 8:34:05 PM  

#55  Are you in favor of killing al-Sadr, "Anti"war? Or is it only OK when Jewhaters kill people?
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 8:32:33 PM  

#54  See ya later AntiWar gotta go feed the puppies, kittens and baby ducks. I use the baby ducks to train the puppies in the autuymn. See Ya!
Posted by: Shipman   2004-04-27 8:31:41 PM  

#53  Yes, a fascist murderer like Saddam makes you hot doesn't it, "Anti"war. "President" Saddam. You do realize that he had to ape Western institutions, right? And on and on about little children...as long as they're not Jews, I see you suddenly have regard for them. Just great stuff, "Anti"war.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 8:30:07 PM  

#52  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 8:25:07 PM  

#51  AW, really--GIVE IT A REST.
We don't believe those Arab lies and we never will.
Not at this site.
Go to Democrat Underground or some Arab site but take it outside.
RB doesn't need a Rachel Corrie.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 8:21:39 PM  

#50  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 8:19:22 PM  

#49  It's my dream to meet President Bush and someday I hope to.
We will celebrate over a fine dinner and Californian champagne the millions of lives in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East and the American Homeland itself that have been either saved, or liberated or both.
You are delusional, Antiwar and I suggest it's time for you to go to work and quit posting here.
You are backing the Islamist terrorist argument and that's a fight you won't win here at RB and that will not be won in the world at large.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 8:18:42 PM  

#48   . . . the lives he and you by your support have ruined in Iraq . . .

*Yawns* //sarcasm on// Oh, yah! Those poor unemployed rape/torture room attendants. *Hand to face* What ever will they do now? //sarcasm off//

Get Real!
Posted by: cingold   2004-04-27 8:17:40 PM  

#47  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 8:13:59 PM  

#46  Antiwar, get off your high horse. You’re no peace lover. You showed your true colors yesterday (see here for yesterday’s hateful name calling and ill wishing by Antiwar, amidst a lot of other rubbish -- e.g., still no criticism from Antiwar against Jerusalem Kindergarten Targeted in Rock Attack). Antiwar, you are just an islamofascist apologist. As for the future of your “movement” (New Age or not), I like the picture you were shown yesterday.

We will finish the war the islamofascists started.
Posted by: cingold   2004-04-27 8:12:34 PM  

#45  Of course I did--I love them both.
Shipman was wishing you a Happy Israeli Independence Day.
Am Yisrael Chai!
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 8:07:28 PM  

#44  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 8:06:01 PM  

#43  I wouldn't vote for anyone else but Bush!
And yes, I've sent him a lot of money and plan to send him more!
(Thanks for the reminder!)
I even got a beautiful Christmas card from George and Laura which I'm going to have framed!
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 7:52:33 PM  

#42  Hi AntiWar! Happy Independen Day
Posted by: Shipman   2004-04-27 7:50:51 PM  

#41  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 7:48:20 PM  

#40  Anti, you side with the terrorists, ergo...
As my President--for whom I voted and will vote for again and to whom I've sent hundreds of dollars and whom I also love, as he is one of the greatest American Presidents of all time--said,
"You're either with us or you're with the terrorists."
I don't see anyone in any part of the globe rushing to convert to Islam.
Even the few Americans who did so, like Jose Padilla, John Mohammed and Johnny Jihad, were either losers and closet cases (Johnny Jihad) or converted in prison where they were incarcerated for serious crime.

Whereas I know of many millions who convert to Christianity daily because they want to because it appeals to their heart and soul (something Islam does not) and I've heard of quite a lot of people converting to Judaism.
In the cases of both Christianity and Judaism, no violence or weapons were involved to help the converts make the decision.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 7:42:59 PM  

#39  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 7:37:00 PM  

#38  CONVERTED to Islam

Yes, an imam came and persuaded them gently. Jesus, you really believe everything, don't you?
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 7:33:22 PM  

#37  Can't you guess who your fellow terrorists are?
(You, NMM, Murat and possibly Katsaris)
No-one in the Holy Land "converted" to Islam.
No-one ever converts to Islam that doesn't have to, unless there's a sword, gun or bomb involved.
The religion just isn't appealing and doesn't have anything for human beings.
The Muslims in the Holy Land are all from other Arab countries who were sent to fight the "holy war" against the "Zionist entity," starting with the Crusades in the Middle Ages.
The Holy Land isn't the Muslims Holy Land because it's not holy to them.
(Besides, the word "holy" is without meaning in Islam anyway.)
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 7:33:10 PM  

#36  Oh and yes how can someone support Hitler AND Stalin????

Are any of the 900 books you claim to own by a guy named "Orwell"? Why don't you ask someone who knows how to read to look him up in the library, and read you his essay called "My Country Right or Left." So figure out what the Popular Front was, and maybe you'll learn something. It's been very enlightening to know exactly what people like you know, or think they know. Just extraordinary.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 7:30:45 PM  

#35  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 7:28:05 PM  

#34  Right, the Chomsky solution--he proposed Lebanon as a model right before the civil war. Surely you have all his works. If you have a few minutes, be sure and read his "interview" (really just PR) with the Pathet Lao "soldier" in Laos: War and Revolution--the one who claims that everyone in Laos will live in peace and harmony in a multiparty, multiethnic democracy. That was given 4 years or so before they started dumping chemical weapons on the Hmong, and of course there's been 25 years of Pathet Lao dictatorship since then. You might talk to Fred Pruitt about how wonderful the promises of the Lao fascists turned out. But I digress.

Tell us, Kapo "Anti"war, which Arab faction, the Arafatist/Aflaq types or the Islamonazi/Qutb ones, both of whom live by the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as much as the Koran, plans on living peacefully with the Jews? And I realize you love revisionism, but can you please explain the Hebron messacre, the jizya and the inability of any Arab nation to provide rights to the minority groups in their midst?

I can see you writing this already: "Mashaal has his faults--but he only killed all the Zionists, not the Jews"
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 7:26:36 PM  

#33  "Oh and yes how can someone support Hitler AND Stalin????"
What about the Munich Pact they both had?
Most of Europe supported Hitler and Stalin from 1939-1941.
Both men were chronic Jew haters.
In fact, the rumor is that Stalin was murdered in 1953 by his own Politburo because he was about to launch a huge purge of Russia's Jews not unlike the Holocaust.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 7:22:35 PM  

#32  Antiwar, those "Jews" are not going to carry the day.
They're a tiny minority and are not the ones leading the Israeli government or even the leading party in the Knesset.
(Sadly, one of the least attractive characteristics of Jews has sometimes been their self-hatred and the group you cite embodies that.)
We, the 90% of RB posters, are Zionists.
Jews have always lived peacefully with their neighbors--there were NO MUSLIMS before the 8th Century.
It's the jihadi Arabs who make war in the region.
You have so many dang books, Anti: why not add "The Middle East for Dummies" to your collection and get a clue.
The Muslims are the problem;
Yasser Arafat started the whole War on Terror in 1972, when his band of "Palestinians" killed the Israeli wrestling team at the Munich Olympics.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-27 7:19:32 PM  

#31  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 7:16:10 PM  

#30  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 7:13:13 PM  

#29  Sorry, "Anti"war, you've pretty much shot your wad now. We know you like dead Jews, and pro-Arafat Jews. That's about it though.

Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 7:00:12 PM  

#28  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 6:55:19 PM  

#27  Neuterei Karta is a tiny dictatorial cult (by the way the Islamonazi terrorists you love so such mistakenly attacked them once). No wonder you're attracted to it, "Anti"war. All you know about Judaism is what Yasser Arafat wants you to know, and he just loves Neuterei Karta (they even carry PA identification materials and their leader is Arafat's "minister for Jewish affairs"). Do you REALLY think we don't know who they are?
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 6:51:08 PM  

#26  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 6:44:28 PM  

#25  Hannity is interviewing Timmerman at this moment.

2:10PDT
Posted by: Anonymous4052   2004-04-27 5:14:53 PM  

#24  Didn't one of the captured al-Qaedas in Jordan admit he had Iraqi training in the "use of toxins"?

I thought that Jordanian King Abdullah mentioned this in a speech after the capture of these goons.
Posted by: Anonymous4052   2004-04-27 5:05:49 PM  

#23  Probably not planned too very far ahead, but not hard to see that someone might try to organize this sort of thing. Saddam was reported to have distributed much cash and many weapons caches just in case it was possible.

Cleanup on Aisle 2 .... long, tedious and tenuous mop-up going on here, but of far more than Iraqi Ba'athists.
Posted by: rkb   2004-04-27 4:57:01 PM  

#22  Imagine for a moment that Saddam wasn't a total idiot. We know he's not a tactical genious by a long shot but it wouldn't take much to realize that the US military would squash him quickly and if he used his WMD they would be particularly brutal.

Assuming he was unwilling to give in, wanted to live, and hoped to regain his country some day there is only one real solution: Sell your WMD to Al Queda (or destroy them) and have your military disappear rather than be defeated by the Occupation army.

That would leave the US trying to hold the country together while trying to find the WMD while international support slipped away. A coordinated strike on the international components could ensure the support disappeared entirely, attacks on supply lines and a sort of Tet-lite would cause many in the US to go wobbly. The only problem is someone turned in his kids and got them killed, then someone turned Saddam in. So I guess we're back to the idiot thing again aren't we.

Still, if the last couple of weeks was actually planned I have to give someone some credit.
Posted by: ruprecht   2004-04-27 4:06:28 PM  

#21  Now the US army is QUITE another story...Rest assured your army is the best and that is NOT a compliment.

So she hates Jews, and she's anti-American. Is anyone surprised?
Posted by: Rafael   2004-04-27 3:14:46 PM  

#20  I really think you caught yourself a live one, Fred. "S/he" started with that whole, "gooddaytoya" thing but hir evil oozes all the way through cyberspace.

I could be wrong...I don't know. But if I were betting on WOT...I'd give it 75%.
Posted by: B   2004-04-27 2:30:16 PM  

#19  Antiwar probably believes that 9/11 was a Mossad plot.I guess that makes Osama bin Laden a rabbi,eh?
Posted by: WhiteHouseDetox   2004-04-27 2:17:28 PM  

#18  Antiwar:in fact,since 3/03 there have been fewer Iraqi civilians killed than in an average year under saddam.ALso,Saddam has been removed and there will be no more mass killing of civilians.But,I understand that,due to your political views,you will never be able to do THAT particular math.
Posted by: WhiteHouseDetox   2004-04-27 2:15:26 PM  

#17  djohn66--

Look, she blamed Jews for the subhumans' stoning of a kindergarten in Israel yesterday. Why wouldn't she try to excuse Saddam as well?

Frank G--

you forgot "stupid pig"

I stand corrected.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 1:08:13 PM  

#16  I don't hate Jews I hate zionists! Some of my best friends are Jews! Really! I had lunch with a Jew once! Happy Independence Day everybody!
Posted by: Shipman   2004-04-27 1:02:31 PM  

#15  Antiwar you are the most digusting piece of sh*t I ever had to read.Saddam had his faults thats all you have to say.
Posted by: djohn66   2004-04-27 12:31:07 PM  

#14  you forgot "stupid pig"
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-27 12:28:06 PM  

#13  Sorry "Anti"war, had my fill of your Jewhatred yesterday, today, tomorrow, so I'm afraid that I won't be following any of your Nazi/Islamofascist links.

You say Saddam "had his faults" (that is, he was a ravening murderer whom you adored, and I'm sure that's the way you would describe Hitler and Stalin too). No, "Anti"war, YOU have your faults (you're ignorant, you hate Jews, you hope others get cancer, etc). Saddam was a Baathist dictator--you merely DEFEND dictators, Jewhaters, and fascists. Saddam needed to get killed as a result, and that's exactly what will happen to him. You're just a powerless white middle-class sheltered semiliterate laughingstock.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 12:18:07 PM  

#12  Sorry "Anti"war, had my fill of your Jewhatred yesterday, today, tomorrow, so I'm afraid that I won't be following any of your Nazi/Islamofascist links.

You say Saddam "had his faults" (that is, he was a ravening murderer whom you adored, and I'm sure that's the way you would describe Hitler and Stalin too). No, "Anti"war, YOU have your faults (you're ignorant, you hate Jews, you hope others get cancer, etc). Saddam was a Baathist dictator--you merely DEFEND dictators, Jewhaters, and fascists. Saddam needed to get killed as a result, and that's exactly what will happen to him. You're just a powerless white middle-class sheltered semiliterate laughingstock.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 12:18:07 PM  

#11  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 12:06:26 PM  

#10  Antiwar, we all thought you were going to watch the Soler documentary about your hero Saddam. You won't like it though--it's extremely critical of him, not meant for Der Jude Suss fans like you.
Posted by: BMN   2004-04-27 11:55:09 AM  

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Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-27 11:52:20 AM  

#8  I don't know how it would play as an October surprise. The lunatic fringe is already pre-spinning it to say that they had all been planted.
(Probably by Haliburton, don't ya know.)

I don't know how many serious people will believe such spin, but I know several people whom I otherwise respect who STILL cling to the notion that Bush "stole the election" even all these years later. I think that with respect to their Bush blindspot they might be WANTING to believe such a story.
Posted by: eLarson   2004-04-27 11:20:50 AM  

#7  October surprise?
Posted by: growler   2004-04-27 10:51:10 AM  

#6  patience grasshopper
Posted by: Dan   2004-04-27 10:49:01 AM  

#5  Mmmmmmmm.... yellow cake...
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-27 10:20:05 AM  

#4  a few are in Sudan, and a few of them were captured in Jordan before they could be used.

And what's the deal with Marines fighting along the Iraqi/Syrian boder near a yellow-cake facility? Can you have a yellow-cake facility for peacefull purposes? Or is the yellow-cake moniker incorrect?
Posted by: ruprecht   2004-04-27 10:18:25 AM  

#3  Yep. The WMD's are there . . . and there . . . and there . . . and . . . Just be patient.
Posted by: ex-lib   2004-04-27 10:11:48 AM  

#2  Of COURSE there were/are WMD's.

And from yesterday's news, I'd bet some of them are in the Sudan right now.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-27 8:05:25 AM  

#1  Of COURSE there were/are WMD's. No matter how much the media repeated the lie that "Bush Lied", it never made up for the fact that every single intel agency in the world believed he had them. With everything that did exsist in the public domain, you really had to suspend all common sense and go into the faith realm to believe that somehow, magically, it was all just a myth.

I think Bush let his opponents put themselves in this position...now they have made the argument for him that they are fools.
Posted by: B   2004-04-27 7:50:45 AM  

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