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Iraq-Jordan
Britain expected to hand over 'Chemical Ali'
2004-06-30
This bugger is even more likely than Saddam to swing from a rope.
Britain is today expected to hand over its highest profile Iraq war detainee, Ali Hassan al-Majid, or "Chemical Ali", as Iraq's new government prepares to bring charges against former dictator Saddam Hussein. A special Iraqi tribunal has issued arrest warrants for Mr Hussein's top lieutenants, including Mr Majid, who is accused of ordering chemical weapons attacks on Iraqi Kurds, and Tariq Aziz, the former deputy prime minister. British officials said they had little choice other than to deliver physical and legal custody of Mr Majid to Iraqi authorities, in spite of the risk he could face execution. The interim Iraq government has retained the death penalty. The UK's powers of detention over prisoners captured during the Iraq war ended with the handover of sovereignty, so Mr Majid would either have to be set free or custody must be transferred to the Iraqis. Iraq's government will bring formal charges against Mr Hussein tomorrow, after taking legal custody of the notorious strongman but leaving him physically in American hands. In his first move since the Monday handover of sovereignty, Iyad Allawi, the prime minister, said Mr Hussein would be charged in an Iraqi court tomorrow, an event that could provide the first appearance of Mr Hussein since he was captured in December.
Sure hope they didn't barber him.
The announcement appeared designed to rally support for the new government by reminding Iraqis of Mr Hussein's brutal rule. The former president's trial, which will be public, may not begin before next year. "We will show that justice will prevail," said Mr Allawi. "We want to put this bad history behind us and to move with the spirit of national unity and reconciliation." While the interim Iraqi government will take legal custody of Mr Hussein and 11 other high-profile prisoners, the US-led multinational force will remain responsible for guarding the prison where he will be held. "At our request, the multinational forces will continue to maintain physical custody of them until Iraq's correction service receives an order from the Victoria's Secret catalog is fully capable for providing for their safety and secure detention," Mr Allawi said.
Posted by:Steve White

#13  
This bugger is even more likely than Saddam to swing from a rope.

Good. And make sure Hussein sees it live and in living color.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-06-30 5:34:17 PM  

#12  It's all very simple, 5479.

You see, the UK signed the Geneva convention, which requires them to return all POWs to their host country after hostilities end.

This is completely different from the situation with the US, where the UK signed an extradition treaty that requires them to hand over indicted criminals.

Um, actually, I guess it really isn't different.
Posted by: Jackal   2004-06-30 3:52:17 PM  

#11  So the Brits are willing to hand this guy over to the Iraqis who are sure to hang him, but they won't extradite to the US "if there's a chance the death penalty might be imposed?" Somebody explain to me the double-standard?
Posted by: Anonymous5479   2004-06-30 1:28:11 PM  

#10  Steve-
he was declared dead several times, but he got better

only temporarily we hope!
Posted by: Spot   2004-06-30 11:32:01 AM  

#9  Indeed, Quana's right - the articles imply 12 physical bodies are being "turned over" - yet the evidence says Al Douri's still on the lamb.

In fact, about 10 days ago, it was reported that Al Douri had proclaimed Zarqawi his leader and proclaimed his loyalty, yadda3. Red's still at large.
Posted by: .com   2004-06-30 10:23:06 AM  

#8  Steve...my confusion is over Ibrahim Al-Douri. There was some news he was captured about three days after Saddam, back in December. Then Centcom said "nope, we ain't got 'im" or something to that effect and he was back on the "not captured yet" list.

These articles (yesterday's here) refer to Al-Douri as if he is in custody but notably describe his date of capture as "date of detention unknown". I think that's a weird thing to say if they have him.

I think .com and beer_me may be right...this may be an "in absentia" kinda "dentention". If they don't have him, why don't they just say "In absentia". It's not as if it isn't a legal term or anything.
Posted by: Quana   2004-06-30 10:17:36 AM  

#7  Ali Hasan al-Majid GEN
Revolutionary Command Council (RCC) / Commander, Ba'ath Party Regional Command / Inner Circle/ Presidential Advisor/ Head Of Central Workers Bureau
In custody Aug 21


They caught him last year. There was a lot of confusion because he was declared dead several times, but he got better.
Posted by: Steve   2004-06-30 9:37:03 AM  

#6  "chemical" ali? since we all know that BUSH LIED and there were no chemical weapons, did he get this nickname when he toured as a bassist with foghat in the 70's?

Oh, thats right, cousin ali killed people en masse. Damn those uncomfortable facts, they do so get in the way of what we want to believe, dont they?

Posted by: Frank Martin   2004-06-30 3:14:55 AM  

#5  Quana, .com, I think they've charged Aizat Al Dori in abstentia. I guess they figure there's enough evidence to get the ball rolling. Plus, I figure most of the regular folk want to see him hang anyways, so a trial would let them re-hash all the evidence they have. Closure and all that.
Posted by: beer_me   2004-06-30 2:46:56 AM  

#4  These losers bring new meaning to rope-a-dope.
Posted by: Capt America   2004-06-30 2:31:59 AM  

#3  I don't know why the Brits are so worried about the death penality. Chem Ali is probably going to get panties on his head! Dirty panties! Oh, the humilation!
Posted by: beer_me   2004-06-30 1:33:38 AM  

#2  Quana - Well, if they have him, then we BOTH missed it! And I have not missed a day of blog reading in a year. I find TONS of stories of the $10M reward and an apparent close call back in December - but nothing about his actual capture.
Posted by: .com   2004-06-30 1:04:56 AM  

#1  While the interim Iraqi government will take legal custody of Mr Hussein and 11 other high-profile prisoners...

Alrighty, .com. Now this article makes it look like they've got Al-Douri since he is one of the numbered "other eleven".

ah...nevermind...I'm so confused...
Posted by: Quana   2004-06-30 12:54:44 AM  

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