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| Afghans behead Taliban in revenge for beheadings |
| 2004-06-22 |
| From the Dept. of Things Getting Out of Hand: Afghan soldiers beheaded four Taliban fighters after guerrillas cut off the heads of an Afghan interpreter for U.S.-led forces and an Afghan soldier, a government commander said on Tuesday. The interpreter and the soldier were beheaded after becoming separated from a patrol of Afghan and U.S.-led foreign troops in the Arghandab district of Zabul province on Monday night, Namatullah Tokhi, commander of the government’s 27th division in the province, told Reuters. He said government troops later captured and killed four Taliban guerrillas in the same way. "They cut of their heads with a knife, so when our forces arrested four Taliban, we cut off their heads too." |
| Posted by:Seafarious |
| #22 Jacksonian Justice, Afghan style. |
| Posted by: Ptah 2004-06-22 9:51:15 PM |
| #21 That's right LH: but it never caught on. I think people here saw that for what it was - a cheap chance to try to blame the Bush...and 9/11 was still a fresh memory. Before 9/11, this wouldn't have gotten too much attention. Most of the MSM big shots hold themselves to be citizens of the world first and Americans second - so what happens elsewhere by the hands of others should be equally as important to them, but it isn't because it doesn't carry their agenda forward. Just my $.02. (not adjusted for inflation) |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-06-22 6:38:24 PM |
| #20 you guys are wrong about MSM and brown guys who are our allies MSM expoloits the fears of PC politicians to do anything that might alienate voters, but my point is, PC politicians alienate voters by double talk and no results. As for brown guy allies-you mean Muslim leaders?-anyways, they are not consistent allies, but they may start being more our consistent if they saw us producing results and being the strong horse in WOT. Muslim leaders will line up behind a winner and that's why they are trying to play both sides now, because the West is not showing itself to be a clear winner. I do not advocate castrating jihadists or Abu humiliation stuff with Muslim POW's. That stuff is pointless. We must dishonor the dead terrorists. We must show that terrorism is NOT a rite of passage to joining Allah. Jihadists use the fear of death against us because they believe dying for OBL's cause by taking innocent infidels with them is the way for them to realize happiness in the after life. Humiliating them while they are alive or merely killing them will not stop future terrorists in training. No, we must take away the honor of a terrorist's death and the best way to do it is to introduce pork at the terrorist's murder site. Simple. |
| Posted by: rex 2004-06-22 6:37:41 PM |
| #19 maybe US troops should start doing this too. then maybe they will put a lil more thought into it before they do another american hostage or soldier this way |
| Posted by: smokeysinse 2004-06-22 6:30:35 PM |
| #18 we need to include knives as part of foriegn aid.... jihadis will understand only one thing and that is force - give what they want to give the rest of us... |
| Posted by: Dan 2004-06-22 6:03:05 PM |
| #17 you guys are wrong about MSM and brown guys who are our allies. When some Taliban guys died in Northern Alliance custody, way back in November 2001, the Left did their best to play it up. Never caught on, at least in the US. Was a bigger story for the UK left, the Guardian et al. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-22 5:58:48 PM |
| #16 The MSM does not represent regular Joe/Josephine citizen on the street, #11. For that matter the current crop of PC politicians in Western countries do not represent ordinary citizens on the street. If George Bush or any other Western leader authorized straight forward dishonoring of jihadist remains with pork, they'd get re-elected with an astounding majority, don't kid yourself. The guy who puts the fear of Allah into Muslim jihad foot soldiers of death, no matter what unsophisticated means employed, would be the hero of the day. I think it's the flip flops, the PC double talk about "evil doers" that is counter productive and divisive. Who can trust a leader to get the job done on the WOT that refers to barbarians as "evil doers?" Puhleaze. Someone should fire the speech writer that gave George Bush that "evil doer" phrase. It drives most ordinary Americans batty when he uses it over and over again. The left wing MSM hand wringers would be marginalized by RESULTS effected by a world leader with ba**s to use cost effective common sense ways of dealing with terrorists. How can anyone argue with results? If aforesaid world leader simply explained that jihadists need to be foiled by measures that block their murderous souls from joining Allah and this is the only way to allow peace loving people of all religions and color to defeat demented thugs, that's all it would take. Picture Reaganesque words coming from the mouth of a Western leader that tells it like it is and offers a solution that costs next to nothing in terms of innocent life or taxpayer money... |
| Posted by: rex 2004-06-22 5:50:38 PM |
| #15 But given the prevelance that Muslim teachers in these terrorist 'religous' schools and notables like Arafat have for boys already, I'm not sure that'd get the job done. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2004-06-22 5:47:38 PM |
| #14 I like the ideas of Silentbrick, but you know what? We can walk a little bit higher ground and still accomplish the same thing. In that part of the world, all you would have to do is tattoo "homosexual Jew-lover" on their foreheads and you'd get the same payoff without creeping into their Neandrathal barbarity. |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-06-22 5:42:31 PM |
| #13 LH: The media will ignore this...people around the world are free to kill each other in great big bleeding batches with no mention. However, should WE put a pair of panties on someone's head well then it's a war crime that needs to lead the news 24/7. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-06-22 5:31:13 PM |
| #12 LH: I doubt it. It's funny how little the MSM expects of BrownPeople(tm), even when they are AmericanStoolies(tm). |
| Posted by: someone 2004-06-22 5:24:32 PM |
| #11 Look, I for one am not gonna get on the case of our noble Afghan allies, who are after all defending THEIR country. But you KNOW the leftie press will be all over this, and will obscure what the jihadis are doing. I still think the WOT concept is right. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-22 5:21:02 PM |
| #10 Bring back Black Jack Pershing's warfare |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-06-22 5:17:29 PM |
| #9 Dishonor and shame? Instead of executing prisoners or the like, let's instead castrate all captured terrorists and tattoo "Terrorist Eunuch" on their forehead and then release them. It's kind of hard to be a glorious martyr when you got captured by the enemy and got your privates snipped off. It's far more insulting I think and blowing themselves up now is no good as the 72 |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2004-06-22 5:13:35 PM |
| #8 ex-lib, i shoulda put my end statement on, which was "maybe we should start taking lessons," but i'd hoped the sarcasm would come through. that is how they communicate, and that is the only thing they understand. just because we wish them to be civilized and behave the way we in the western world do, isn't going to make it so. i'm with rex, and am sick of taking the high road and not reacting in kind or harsher. as in other posts i've read, it's going to take a lot more western deaths for us as a society to give up on this PC BS. i'll try to be clearer in future posts (or put a disclaimer in...) |
| Posted by: nada 2004-06-22 5:11:39 PM |
| #7 What's the big deal? Did they put panties on their heads before they were cut off? |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-06-22 5:10:53 PM |
| #6 Good for the Afghans! Finally someone has the common sense to treat barbarians as they deserve to be treated...with swift and final punishment. The only thing missing from the punishment is sprinking some pork rinds on the bodies of the 4 Taliban fighters[a Christian could do this favor for the Afghans] and filming this exercise and sending the video to Al Jazeera. I know my suggestion must trouble your cultured and refined sensibilities, LH, but I think that the only way to deal with Islamic barbarians is to give them a taste of their worst nightmare-death with dishonor. Shower every site of terrorism in the world with pork rinds AND most importantly videotape the sacrilege. The WOT via implementing democracy is a civilized but alas, failed approach. Sorry, LH, but that's the truth. The West needs to block every Jihadist's ultimate goal to die an "honorable" Islamic death in a very graphic and straight forward way...I'm sick to death of taking the "higher" road with demented murderers and losing innocent lives in the process. For what? In the name of a concept that means the square root of minus one to Islamic terrorists ie. civilized society, democracy and freedom? We MUST speak a language that terrorists understand - ie. "Dishonor and shame awaits you monsters if you kill or harm any infidel or peaceful Muslim. OBL and his deputies may be safe in their caves, but you Islamic foot-soldiers of death will live in hell forever if you mess with us." |
| Posted by: rex 2004-06-22 4:57:49 PM |
| #5 "thanks guys, but er ...." "sounds so nonchalant. must be how they communicate..." They speak the "language" of the tribal desert culture, and understand each other better than we do--now the Taliban will have to decide if it's worth it to attack US forces and friends. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2004-06-22 4:55:15 PM |
| #4 "They cut of their heads with a knife, so when our forces arrested four Taliban, we cut off their heads too." sounds so nonchalant. must be how they communicate... |
| Posted by: nada 2004-06-22 4:39:37 PM |
| #3 Heh heh heh. |
| Posted by: someone 2004-06-22 4:38:20 PM |
| #2 Well, they did save four bullets... |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-06-22 4:36:04 PM |
| #1 hmmm. well, like, geez, thanks guys, but er .... |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-22 4:26:36 PM |