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Iraq Insurgents Gun Down 4 U.S. Marines
2004-06-22
Insurgents gunned down four U.S. Marines west of Baghdad on Monday, and South Korea said it would go ahead with plans to send thousands more troops to Iraq despite a threat by Iraqi kidnappers to kill a South Korean seen pleading for his life on a videotape. A videotape delivered to Associated Press Television News showed four Marines in uniform lying dead in what appeared to be a walled compound in Ramadi, an insurgent stronghold 60 miles west of Baghdad. One of the Americans was slumped in the corner of a wall. The bodies had no flak vests - mandatory for U.S. troops in contested areas - and at least one was missing a boot. One fieldpack was left open next to a body as if the attackers had looted the dead before fleeing.
Rat bastards.
Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, coalition deputy operations chief, confirmed the killings but gave few details. He said a U.S. quick reaction force found the bodies after the troops failed to report to their headquarters as required. American officials had been concerned about the deteriorating security situation in Ramadi, located along a belt of Sunni militancy running westward from Baghdad along the Euphrates River. Last week, seven Iraqi Civil Defense Corps members were arrested for planting a roadside bomb that killed a policeman and wounded seven civilians in Ramadi. Most of the kidnappings of foreigners over the past two months are believed to have occurred along that belt.
Posted by:Steve White

#17  *gulp* You're a DeadHead? Lol! Musta got you in a time of weakness, heh... Have Fun for all of us!
Posted by: .com   2004-06-22 10:54:32 PM  

#16  timeless, PD....just friggin timeless...
BTW - small posting in PM tomorrow - I'm going to the Dead concert at Coors Amphitheater here in very So Cal. I love the Grateful Dead remnants regardless of Miss "no clue"....I'll look for her heh heh...(already took my paternal looking-down from Alaska Paul lol)
Posted by: Frank G   2004-06-22 10:27:12 PM  

#15  You just barely qualify for troll... just 1 neuron less (3 are required) and you'd merely be a parody of a joke.



FOAD / HAND
Posted by: .com   2004-06-22 9:15:11 PM  

#14  I want some Iraqi ass for this!! If "W" continues to placate the scum in Iraq, I will change my vote to Kerry in November. I'd rather see us leave in total than be lied to about this terror offensive we're suppose to be "fighting"!
Posted by: smn   2004-06-22 8:52:38 PM  

#13  Hopefully the Marines will be allowed to go hunting to find the killers of their brothers.

Don't count on it.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-06-22 2:13:36 PM  

#12  Head shot.
Posted by: .com   2004-06-22 1:47:43 PM  

#11  So what are the rules of engagement when you find a raghead wearing Marine body armor......?
Posted by: Mercutio   2004-06-22 1:44:14 PM  

#10  Hopefully the Marines will be allowed to go hunting to find the killers of their brothers. Hopefully.
Posted by: remote man   2004-06-22 12:57:15 PM  

#9  Tibor - You're on-target, bro: LoJack the troops, already on the drawing board -- expected to be part of the New Electronic Soldier currently in development and proof of concept testing...
Posted by: .com   2004-06-22 12:08:44 PM  

#8  I heard one report indicating that the bodies were partially decomposed, indicating that they had died days ago.

About the ICDC being recruited locally, I have a friend from NYC who's in the DEA. When asked where he wanted to be posted, he was told he could choose anywhere but NYC -- there's a risk he might come across a friend or family member, so it's better that he be stationed where he has no ties. It would make some sense for the Iraqi military, but not for the police force.

Here's an idea, why don't we put a microchip in the flak vests or in the kevlar that is only activated when the soldier/marine goes missing. We could use it to track down the soldier/marine or the missing equipment if something bad befalls the owner. (I know that this system may be vulnerable to misuse by our enemies (who may try to hack in to the system to track our troop movements), but I would hope that the US government could take steps to prevent that.)
Posted by: Tibor   2004-06-22 12:04:23 PM  

#7  LH's idea strikes me as an excellent safe-guard to reduce local clan / tribal influence on ICDC - whose goals, interests, and methods will have precisely nothing in common with the CPA, to put it politely - especially in SunniLand.

The only relationship between ICDC forces and the Sunni Triangle population should be one of respect based on fear. Remove the fear and the Sunnis revert to their colorful traditions of thuggery and organized mayhem.
Posted by: .com   2004-06-22 10:33:19 AM  

#6  It seems the ICDC is locally recruited. It might be worth it to suspend recruitment of ICDC in Anbar Province, and re-vett all existing ICDC. Focus recruitment and training on areas where more reliable ICDC come from (although that will mean mainly Shia and Kurds)
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-06-22 9:15:25 AM  

#5  These people are not insurgents! They are the enemy! LABEL THEM PROPERLY!
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-06-22 7:43:36 AM  

#4  Zhang Fei, would it make the ICDC sweat if you brought them all in and had them fire into a water tank?
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-06-22 2:25:27 AM  

#3  10 to 1 ratio is fair! Come on guys!! 40 to go!
Posted by: smn   2004-06-22 1:59:26 AM  

#2  What are the odds that they were bushwhacked by ICDC or Iraqi police? I would say pretty high.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-06-22 1:49:21 AM  

#1  I think the leftists may be too optimistic about the possible repercussions. Here is what Independent includes in a "news" article by Andrew Gumball Gumbel: Latest horror could destroy President of divided nation

a quote from same - "Yesterday, a Washington Post article was headlined: "Is al-Qa'ida winning in Saudi Arabia?" It was just such questions about America's enemies that led President Johnson to his "Cronkite moment" in 1968 - his realisation that he could no longer count on the support of the country's favourite television news anchor, Walter Cronkite, and that he had therefore lost the sympathy of the electorate as a whole."
Posted by: Super hose   2004-06-22 1:43:24 AM  

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