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Home Front: WoT
Insta-punk (not pundit) on torture
2004-06-16
But referred by the Professor; long article on torture, some surprising insights.
Posted by:Steve White

#2  I sometimes wonder if the quickest way to end this war would be to parade the next big shot we catch (OBL, Zawahiri, or Zarqawi come to mind) down the middle of the street, naked, on all fours, and on a leash. His escorts would be a squad of female MP's who when not jerking the leash, would spit on him and revile him in Arabic. Arabs are big on symbolism, so I hear.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-06-16 8:14:24 PM  

#1  "They were trying to humiliate us, break our pride. We are men. It's OK if they beat me. Beatings don't hurt us, it's just a blow. But no one would want their manhood to be shattered," he said. "They wanted us to feel as though we were women, the way women feel and this is the worst insult, to feel like a woman."

The braver women in that world would probably agree that the shaming and mistreatment they suffer simply because they are women does exceed physical torture.

This may be controversial to say, but the shaming men experienced at Abu Ghraib could usher in badly needed change in the Islamic world, in the long run. This man hasn't confronted his prejudice yet; maybe after a few years' haunting memories of the humiliation, he can take what he has experienced and recognize the parallel between his (momentary) humiliation and Muslim women's (lifelong) humiliation and use that knowledge to improve the estimation of women in Islam.
Posted by: jules 187   2004-06-16 4:21:54 PM  

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