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| Participation in European Elections Violates Islam |
| 2004-06-10 |
| From Al Muhajiroun Unfortunately for the Muslims in the West (who are living in the heartlands of the Kufr and the Shirk), election season is upon us, with voting for the European Parliament, the Mayor of London and the local UK elections taking place on the 10th of June. I say unfortunately because for the real Muslim Muwaahid (true monotheists) this is a time of great pain and sadness as they see how the kuffaar usurp one of the most important Names and Attributes of Allaah (swt), that of al-Hakam al-Adl (the Divine Just Ruler), and direct it to themselves. However, the greater pain is caused because the people who call themselves by Muslims names and attribute themselves to the Muslim Ummah (falsely), saying that they care for its concerns, participate in these events, choosing, canvassing and even arguing with their Muslim brethren about which Kaafir (disbeliever) they should give their vote to so that they may take office and thereby rule and judge by Kufr (non-Islam). Initially, those involved in such activities, being Secularists and involved in all manners of haraam such as selling alcohol, not fulfilling their duties etc, did not care what Islam said on this matter. Rather they became MPs and Ministers for their own pleasures and benefits. The likes of other secularists such as the apostate (murtadd) Lord Ahmed Khanzir, the ex-Scottish MP Mr Muhammad Sarwar and Baroness Uddin all attained their positions through canvassing the so-called Muslim vote, claiming that they would represent the Muslim viewpoint when they gained their seats. However, their damn lies, false promises and anti-Islamic, pro-Kufr (disbelief) policies were manifest for all to see in particular when the labour backbenchers rebelled against Tony Blair in the build up to the war on Iraq yet not a single voice of dissent came from these so-called integrated-Muslims within his party! Maybe these Muslim parliamentarians judged there silence to be of a âlesser evilâ than their speaking out against the terrorist Blair regime. Regrettably, of recent has surfaced a more manifest attack against the Islamic âAqeedah and the Tawheed (oneness) of Allaah (swt), in that so-called Muslims and their groupings (like Islamic Awakening (formerly known as Azzam publications) and Al-Muntada) are now calling other Muslims to vote for and choose Kufaar (disbelievers) to come into power, citing examples such as the story of Yusuf (as) and the principles of the "lesser of two evils" to further their cases whilst trying to cloak their actions of Shirk by wearing the negligee of Islamic Shariah in an attempt to look and appear legitimate in the eyes of the Muslims. This short article hopes to present some of the Islamic evidences dealing with the issue of voting and whether the Muslims residing in the UK or elsewhere are allowed to participate in such activities. Many many many many quotations from the Koran Therefore, voting for any political party that is going to work within a democratic framework and voting for or against legislation in a parliament regardless of the apparent benefits is at best Haraam, and at worst an act of Kufr and Shirk, taking one outside the fold of Islam. Voting for a secular party in the Western systems, regardless of a noble goal and the correctness of the intention, is something that contradicts the foundations of what it means to be a Muslim and without a shadow of a doubt is something that is prohibited. Oh Muslim! Oh you to whom Allaah (swt) has given might with Islam! The call of integration (e.g. voting) is a call for further subjugation of the will of the Muslims. It is a concerted effort by the enemies of Allaah (swt) to drive the Muslims to integrate into British society and to instil into Muslims the values of Secularism, as manifested by the Labour and Conservative parties as well as the Respect party, The Green party amongst others. This drive towards secularising the Muslims has already led to many Muslims suffering the consequences of Freedom. Donât you look and see the dire consequences in which Muslims have adopted the lifestyles and values they have found around them? Muslim youth (our future) have become submerged into the Kufr culture around them. Rampant fornication, adultery and even homosexuality have found their way into the Muslim community. Muslim elders have found themselves abandoned and neglected, whereas it was previously thought that the âold folks homeâ was an abode for the Kuffaar. New figures from the home office indicate otherwise. Do we as an Ummah want to continue to go down this road? As Muslims, we must strengthen our own defences against this Kufr onslaught by immersing ourselves in the vast Islamic culture, actively seeking out the Haqq (the truth), and not being satisfied to just imitate our so-called community leaders when they openly go against that which is known from Islam by necessity. At the same time, we need to stand together with the followers of Ahl Al Sunnah WaâL Jamaah, wherever they are, in order to act as a pressure group, in the absence of the Islamic Khilafah State. We must enjoin the good and forbid the evil in society, stand up for Islam and Muslims, wherever they are, and strengthen our links with our Muslim brothers overseas, to maintain the âone-nationâ concept. May Allah make this easy for us. |
| Posted by:Mike Sylwester |
| #36 I knew nothing about this DB!! Can't say I'm surprised 'tho. There's a very large asian community in Derby - I have friends in the Sikh and Hindu community but don't know any Muslims - they never mixed with any others when I was growing up there. A real breed apart. Life is really changing in part of the city - I expect the Muslim call to prayer to be allowed next. Good news is that the Tories are in, and whilst I despise them, they will put a stop to this bullshit. Thanks for letting me know!! |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-06-11 8:19:42 AM |
| #35 I know, that would be littering and would be haraam for the eco-freaks. |
| Posted by: RWV 2004-06-10 9:06:13 PM |
| #34 You know, this is all very simple. If these beturbaned wise men think that living amongst the Kufr and Shirk is against Islam, then obviously they should go back to Arabia or some other Islamically pure place. If, on the other hand, they think that we as non-believers should just FOAD so that the Ummah can occupy our lands then we have a problem. In that case, we should either imprison these nutballs until their beards have grown long and their teeth fallen out or we should ship them to what ever beknighted land is willing to accept them. Gaza comes to mind, but since there's no functioning airfield, we'll just have to drop them in from above SA-7 range - maybe 20 - 30,000 feet. |
| Posted by: RWV 2004-06-10 9:01:08 PM |
| #33 But in Derby, where the park is located, members of the city council and community activists have called the statur "devisive" and asked that it not be placed in the park lest it offend area Muslims." What's next? Every butcher must remove bacon and chops from all window displays? Aren't Muslims who are offended by the symbols encountered during daily life in a multicultural society the "militant Islamist" sort of faction we need to exterminate? What is this banana oil? If this continues, the Brits will lose their war on terror without any attacks being waged upon them. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-06-10 6:21:17 PM |
| #32 Howard. I just read this and wonder if you know anything about it? "The Florentine Boar, the centerpiece of Great Britain's oldest public park, stood for more than 100 years before it was damaged during World War II. A planned refurbishing of the park includes a replica of the statue. But in Derby, where the park is located, members of the city council and community activists have called the statur "devisive" and asked that it not be placed in the park lest it offend area Muslims." |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2004-06-10 6:13:00 PM |
| #31 Julian L: Would Harper becoming Prime Minister change any of the problems you are describing? |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-06-10 5:23:27 PM |
| #30 Participation in European Elections Violates Islam What is there besides infidel killing, serial prayer, turban twirling and wife beating that doesn't "violate Islam?" This is right up there with how so many Palestinians voluntarily abandoned their property in Israel, being persuaded by their Arab leaders that all Jewish holdings would be their's to plunder once the Jews were "pushed into the sea." We see it again here. "Do not vote" as it is a form of participation with the infidel. Instead, abandon your right to elected representation and thereby facilitate elements hostile to Muslim interests in their efforts to marginalize any role of Islam in European society. Once those inimicable interests have obtained ascendency, only then should the weeping and wailing begin about "oppression and (that justly famous) humiliation" of the Islamic faith. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-06-10 4:46:36 PM |
| #29 More info on hate crimes in Canada: CBC Indepth |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-06-10 4:30:46 PM |
| #28 Hello Sane People: In the lead-up to the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003, here in Toronto - North America's 3rd or 4th largest city - the Muslim community marched in protest. Many carried signs that read DEATH TO ALL JEWS. This is a "hate crime" according to Canadian law. Nonetheless, not a single Muslim person was arrested or stopped. Rather, a Jewish surgeon was attacked by a gang of Muslims and beaten to a pulp. Canada also has a policy of official multiculturalism. Truly a pity! |
| Posted by: Julian L. 2004-06-10 3:58:32 PM |
| #27 LOL - OK , Raj - Talladega too...I was a happy guy last sunday. Mark Martin fan, and I finally got to celebrate |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-06-10 1:16:02 PM |
| #26 . . .orders not to interfer with the culturally sensitive display of free speech. How about a long prison term for accessory to assault, and conspiracy to the man who gave the orders. Cultural sensitivity my ass. Of course, I think this was in So-Called "Congressman" McDermott's district, right? Enough said. |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-06-10 1:04:20 PM |
| #25 When I hear Alabama, I think Crimson Tide and Bear Bryant WTF? War F**king Eagle! |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-06-10 1:01:55 PM |
| #24 Dan, Sometimes the police do tolerate outright thugery. In Seattle during World trade Conf., Black thugs showed their rage by beating a young white kid who tried to help a girl who was being molested by them. The police stood watching as they had orders not to interfer with the culturally sensitive display of free speech. The top cop was retired, doing nicely I'm sure. Alabama, the tomohawk chop! |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-06-10 12:57:03 PM |
| #23 DB, dont worry, i understand. Ive only been to Huntsville, which isnt really 'Bama I guess, but i was friends with an almost hippie chick girl from Birmingham in college. I didnt want a time travel thing to distract from the humor, and wanted a place where the klans focus was historically on voting, which I dont think it was in the north, and isnt the case with the contemporary klan at all. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-10 12:53:17 PM |
| #22 When I hear Alabama, I think Crimson Tide and Bear Bryant Talladega! |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-06-10 12:47:02 PM |
| #21 I agree with .com - Lock me up - Its not racial - some jackas trying to stop people from voting, and the police didn't show up yet so I was helping the person get to the polling place when thei asshole tried to stop her. Perhaps the show of a well balanced cricket bat in the hands of a solid 250lb-er would be a convincer to some turbaned jackass not to harass people. The show of baseball bats work here against the "unreformed", and (he he he) some are now made of Alumin(i)um. . . ecology and trees, you know. . . "You gonna leave the little lady alone, boy?" "But you don't understand. I am on a mission form Allah!" "And I am on a mission too. To send you to meet your buddy Allah if you don't get your sorry ass out of her way." |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-06-10 12:33:07 PM |
| #20 Goddammit! It's stuff like this that makes me think that maybe we won't succeed with Iraq - not because I think we can't do it (we can), but because these idiots allow a bunch of morons with turbans wrapped too tightly around their heads to dictate their actions! You need free thought, and these people don't have it. |
| Posted by: The Doctor 2004-06-10 12:13:01 PM |
| #19 actually Deacon - you've succeeded - don't be too sensitive. When I hear Alabama, I think Crimson Tide and Bear Bryant |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-06-10 12:09:38 PM |
| #18 Liberalhawk: I understand and got a smile from your post but I would like to enlighten you on the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama. At one time they were very powerful but not any more. They are more often laughed at nowadays. There is a bigger Klan following in Ohio now than in Alabama. I know Alabama has a sordid past history where the Klan is concerned and it pains me to know that when people think of Alabama the Klan comes to mind. I wish we could get that stain off. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2004-06-10 12:04:50 PM |
| #17 howard is that true about the intimidation of muslim women at the polling stations? if so i feel sorry for the state of european affairs... in the US the police would not tolerate this - you have rights as long as you do not infringe on the rights of others..which i totally support... freedoms and rights are not automatic..you need to fight for them and repsect the rights of others..if not kiss your's goodbye! |
| Posted by: Dan 2004-06-10 11:36:40 AM |
| #16 Memo From:Grand Kleagle, Klu Klux Klan, Montgomery,Alabama TO: Acting director, Al Muhajiroun, London, UK RE: Interfering with voting You seem to have misread my last memo. Youre supposed to stop members of the OTHER ethnic group from voting, NOT your own. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-10 11:36:02 AM |
| #15 Therefore, voting for any political party that is going to work within a democratic framework and voting for or against legislation in a parliament regardless of the apparent benefits is at best Haraam, and at worst an act of Kufr and Shirk, taking one outside the fold of Islam. Voting for a secular party in the Western systems, regardless of a noble goal and the correctness of the intention, is something that contradicts the foundations of what it means to be a Muslim and without a shadow of a doubt is something that is prohibited. Expect turbaned poll-monitors at polling stations, midnight visits, and lots of dead folks in the morning. Allah Akhbar, baby, Allah Akhbar! |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-06-10 11:29:41 AM |
| #14 I think he meant Shrek, not shirk. Or maybe he was football fan. Jerry Sherk was a DL for the Cleveland Browns 1970-1981 out of Oklahoma State or maybe TE Gary Shirk of the WFL, New York Giants and USFL. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-06-10 10:06:44 AM |
| #13 Indeed, Howard, but now that the police have been reduced to behaving like pussified social workers, what can you expect? There'll be a backlash against this PC bullshite soon enough... For the sake of the chattering classes' obsessional 'multiculturalism' we have to watch the law enforcers stand idly by as women are intimidated into not voting so as to respect their 'cultural values' and, heaven-forbid, avoid committing that worst-possible crime, provoking a 'minority'. Similarly, we see armed police spending an hour conducting a risk analysis of a crime scene, where two women lie dying of wounds in a garden, because common sense, and getting the bloody job done, again, have to make way for politically-prescribed insanity. The tide will turn, my friend! The tide will turn... |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-06-10 9:42:49 AM |
| #12 the heartlands of the Kufr and the Shirk Sh*t, they got me confused. Are we kufr or shirk, or both?;) |
| Posted by: Spot 2004-06-10 9:31:47 AM |
| #11 We'd be locked up for racially aggravated assault and made an example of for being of managerial middle-class stock. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-06-10 9:31:02 AM |
| #10 BD: I couldn't believe what I saw on TV last year - described above - as often happens recently, I was left staring open-mouthed at the tv, repeatedly muttering: 'But that's illegal.. they can't do that.' |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-06-10 9:28:46 AM |
| #9 I think that some healthy young sports might just enjoy hanging around in hopes of catching some bully boy jihadi harassing anyone. Sounds like just the public service I used to actively seek out in my youthful days of thuggery! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-06-10 9:28:29 AM |
| #8 There's been a lot of fuss about alleged abuses of the experimentally partially-introduced postal voting this time round, much of it involving Muslims and Muslim communities. Some detail here. We'll see whether there's been intimidation at polling stations in the next day or two (if it happens, and if so, if it gets reported). |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-06-10 9:26:00 AM |
| #7 There were no reports of arrests and all was filmed on national tv to little outcry - often sound as though I'm exaggerating but things have become ludicrous here. There were arrests in Birmingham the other day, however, when a similar trick was puled during canvassing - there was a bloody big scrap by all accounts too. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-06-10 9:16:28 AM |
| #6 if this is propaganda written to keep the growing Muslim population from screwing up secular democracy....well done! |
| Posted by: B 2004-06-10 9:11:26 AM |
| #5 What? Aren't there polling laws (minimum distances from polling station for loitering / electioneering) and general laws regards assault (excuse me, sir, you can't menace or bash the lady... that is a lady under the sack, right?), etc.??? WTF? Tell me you're having us on with some exaggeration! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-06-10 9:04:46 AM |
| #4 Don't like it? Piss off. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-06-10 8:57:30 AM |
| #3 Have you seen how they treat muslim women outside polling stations who have the temerity to challenge their theocratic mores? Last year, in Derby UK, with Police present, many women were intimidated in the street by the Al Muhajiloonies and consequently scuttled back home to their kitchens without voting. Those bearded twats should have been in the back of a meat-wagon on the receiving end of a good kicking from Plod IMHO. Harumph. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-06-10 8:56:20 AM |
| #2 Doesn't this mean we can direct our Polling Judges to exclude Muslims from voting, too - y'know, the old "You may not respect your religion, but we do - now bugger off." routine? Mebbe the internal threat can be drastically reduced if they demand to be disenfranchised. I certainly won't complain! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-06-10 8:45:51 AM |
| #1 Fine with me. By the way, as agents of the "one-nation" concept of the Ummah, why aren't they called Traitors? |
| Posted by: Ptah 2004-06-10 8:41:28 AM |