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Africa: Horn
Sudan dismisses US threats
2004-05-23
Sudanese Foreign Minister Mustafa Osman Ismail Saturday dismissed "American threats" to impose sanctions on his country as part of the "elections fever." He told a news conference on the sidelines of the Arab summit in the Tunisian capital, Tunis, that Sudan was keen on resolving "all pending issues with the United States in a realistic and reasonable manner." Ismail, who is heading Sudan's delegation to the summit, said his government agreed to provide facilities to humanitarian organizations to bring in relief aid to parts of the country, including the troubled area of Darfour.
"Yeah! Cross our hearts and hope to... uhhh... die."
He denied reports of genocide against African tribes by Arab tribes in Darfour, saying the fighting in the region was being carried out by "rebels." The minister insisted that most of those killed in the area were members of the Sudanese army and police, adding that 23,000 people were displaced from their homes due to the fighting.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#33  Damn! I being oppressed by the blog!
Ima really not Gentile Shipman who chide
Frank G for shooting phish in a barrell.

(that wrong Frank, get a grip) ;)
Posted by: Shipman   2004-05-23 12:15:05 PM  

#32  Damn! I being oppressed by the blog!
Ima really not Gentile Shipman who chide
Frank G for shooting phish in a barrell.

(that wrong Frank, get a grip) ;)
Posted by: Shipman   2004-05-23 12:15:05 PM  

#31  LOL Shooting fish in a barrell again Frank?
Posted by: Gentile Shipman   2004-05-23 12:13:16 PM  

#30  LOL Shooting fish in a barrell again Frank?
Posted by: Gentile Shipman   2004-05-23 12:13:16 PM  

#29  Mean it time to call a plummer.
Posted by: Gentile   2004-05-23 12:11:58 PM  

#28  Mean it time to call a plummer.
Posted by: Gentile   2004-05-23 12:11:58 PM  

#27  
Check out the photo gallery via the link:

Would normal people engage in the activity focusing on only blood and more blood, including forcing their own children to be deeply involved in these demented cultic rituals?

Recall we continue being informed of the 'peaceful' intentions' of Islam.

By the way, do you have two ten's for a five?
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-05-23 10:02:40 PM  

#26  Lucky, we need to get you at my college, have you lecture once or twice.

JerseyMike, love the one-liner.
Posted by: The Doctor   2004-05-23 9:06:01 PM  

#25  Lucky, I'm hearing allah is a fake. Any truth to that?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-05-23 9:01:50 PM  

#24  Well, Gentle, since I am not a Muslim you know full well I am not supposed to be allowed to visit Mecca.

That said, I *have* done business with the Saudis. And as a non-Arab woman, it was amusing ... if I thought I were in any danger of coming under their control or rule, it would have been a lot more than that.

If you want to further good relations across religious and ethnic lines, good for you -- but you won't do it by asking questions like that.

And yes -- I have heard Muslim Arabs from rather well-placed families express casual and breathtaking racism. If you haven't, you haven't been listening to the wider press or to Arab TV.
Posted by: rkb   2004-05-23 7:17:25 PM  

#23  Arabs killing off black Africans, both groups Muslim. Wonder if Louis Farrakhan's head hurts trying to deal with that?
Posted by: Pappy   2004-05-23 7:17:23 PM  

#22  Keep up the reports, Dan. ABC finally covered Darfur on the nightly news. A man was asked why he was driven from his village. He replied, "Because we are black."
Posted by: Zpaz   2004-05-23 7:07:01 PM  

#21  Well, I feel I'm teaching the real version of islam.

Ya see it's all about this prophet, his slaying of dragons,(dragons were big in those days as each tribe had their own dragon) Once the prophet slay a dragon you proclaim that place (where he slay the beast) a holy place.

Each holy place is not equal, that can sometimes cause a problem but follow along. Allah (or Allan as the case may be) gives blessings based on how much you pray at each dragon lare. That prayer is worth ten points here or five there. It is based on the decimal system, something the dragon slayers gave to the world.

At each holy place a holy man works hard at getting his dragons lare more important than anothers dragon lare. It pays to have a lare that is worth ten vs one that his worth five, you can make more cash, cash is good, no?!

This is not hard. It's important to keep the cash flowing, people need to eat. So the people of the phophet must be held closely to the interprise.

For instance it's important that you are always polite to each other. The guy at the top will be polite to you as long as you know your place and return the politness. This is known in educated circles as patriarchy (El Patron in Andalusia).

One good way to keep the cash flowing and the folk in line are apostacy rules, I'm getting a little long here, and I've been known to be a little wordy, a guy thing methinks, but it's not cool to mess with the apostacy thing.

Tomorrow I'll talk more about those dragons. And also too, I'm waiting on a scholarly report on the apostacy thing. I think you'll find that very interesting.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-05-23 3:06:09 PM  

#20  Sure: Who was your teacher and when did you study there?
Posted by: James   2004-05-23 2:34:03 PM  

#19  your question should be that you are wondering who is teaching the REAL version of Islam.

So who is teaching the real version of Islam?
Posted by: Rafael   2004-05-23 2:22:48 PM  

#18  Gentle, it's actually YOU who should be wondering...
And the reason I know about racism in Mecca is from reading about it in Arab News (a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Saudi royal family).
You don't have to *go* to Mecca to find out about it.
Also, the "regular" Muslims here in America wouldn't meet with the black "Nation of Islam" Muslims last summer in Chicago even though their conferences were held at the exact same time.
Posted by: Jen   2004-05-23 1:39:26 PM  

#17  
U.A.E.


Any other questions?
Oh, and your question should be that you are wondering who is teaching the REAL version of Islam.
Posted by: Gentle   2004-05-23 1:35:20 PM  

#16  
U.A.E.


Any other questions?
Oh, and your question should be that you are wondering who is teaching the REAL version of Islam.
Posted by: Gentle   2004-05-23 1:35:09 PM  

#15  Gentle, where did you get your instruction in Islam? I'm not trying to make fun of you; I merely want to know who is teaching peaceful Islam--I already know about places that teach violent versions.
Posted by: James   2004-05-23 1:30:49 PM  

#14  ruh oh.....

Ima person a non grata evidently. That's okay
ever since the lobotomy therapy my left
hand hasn't known what my right hand were doing.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-05-23 12:16:46 PM  

#13  he's quoting the official Saooodi travel guide for non-muslims you bigotted fool
Posted by: Frank G   2004-05-23 11:06:27 AM  

#12  If you've never been to the place, don't go telling things you're not sure of.
It only makes your other wrong opinios even weaker, but why am I complaining, you're proving yourself more of hot-headed-no-sense person by the minute.
Posted by: Gentle   2004-05-23 11:05:21 AM  

#11  From all accounts Mecca is a 7th century shithole populated by raving murderous lunatics who worship the moon.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-05-23 11:03:43 AM  

#10  Then how do you explain the Sudan,Gentle?
How can we go to Mecca,Gentle.You do know that they have that bigotted,segregesionist policy that only Moslems are allowed there?
Why is it that non-Moslems are forced to live in segregated communities in Saudi Arabia?
No racisiam in Islam my white ass.Try your self-delusional lies somewhere else.
Posted by: Raptor   2004-05-23 11:02:50 AM  

#9  What does "Sinktrap" mean?
Posted by: Gentle   2004-05-23 11:01:50 AM  

#8  Gentle, Nope.
(You know full well that kuffir like me aren't allowed there!)
Personally, I'd love to see us blast that heathen black rock and the rest of the place with a nice nuke!
Nothing good has come from there that I can see.
The Rome of the Muslim world it ain't!
Posted by: Jen   2004-05-23 10:58:27 AM  

#7  troll - antiwar and gentle are one and the same - Sinktrap time
Posted by: Frank G   2004-05-23 10:52:52 AM  

#6  Jen:
Have you EVER been to Mecca?
I have.
Posted by: Gentle   2004-05-23 10:40:58 AM  

#5  Bullshit.
Tell that to the black Muslims who are treated like second-class citizens in Mecca itself by the Saudis!
Posted by: Jen   2004-05-23 10:33:28 AM  

#4  Just for the record:
There is NO racisim in Islam, 11A5S.
Posted by: Gentle   2004-05-23 10:29:34 AM  

#3  The real bad thing? The tribes in Darfur are Muslim... not even Christian or animist. It's purely ethnic cleansing. The Arabs are chasing the blacks into Chad. So much for the Wahhabi apologists and their "there is no racsim in Islam" line.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-05-23 10:24:13 AM  

#2  Saddam made the same foolish mistake not thinking the U.S. would follow through and overthrow him.

The Sudan needs to be taught it's not wise to threaten Washington.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-05-23 2:51:29 AM  

#1  Muslims where are your protests, and outrage regarding this situation, and all you 'peace' protestors, think you could raise a sign to protest a genocide?
Modern day chattel slavery?
How about mass gang rapes?
Oh oops I forgot none of this compares to Iraqi prison abuse.

Maybe we should bomb Sudan, then at least we would get the Muslims and 'peace protestors' concerned. Of course they would be protesting America, but at least they would give a shit then.
Posted by: TS(vice girl)   2004-05-23 1:58:44 AM  

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