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Home Front: Politix
Bush Worst Prez - Come On Guys Get A Grip On History
2004-04-21
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January..... in the fair city of Detroit (Michigan) there were 35 murders in the month of January. That’s one American city folks, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq! Worst president in history?

The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.
Liberals claim President Bush shouldn’t have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let’s clear up one point: We didn’t start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.

Let’s look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.

FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment.

Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden’s head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

Worst president in history? Come on!

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.

We’ve been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Posted by:Dan

#26  Raj you are an Orc.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-21 7:40:32 PM  

#25  Is Bush the worst President? yes.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-04-21 7:16:35 PM  

#24  Thanks for the info Carl. We've found out a lot since the USSR fell. I guess I haven't been keeping up.

Aris: I think that everything that the Clintons did paled next to "Travelgate." Travelgate unravelled after the leak about the $200 haircut on the tarmac at LAX. The Clintons blamed the Whitehouse travel office staff for the leak. These were five low-paid civil servants who could have made a lot more money elsewhere, but who worked at the WH for the honor of it. Apparently the leak didn't come from the travel office, and even if it had, the Clintons simply could have had them transferred. Instead, the C's accused them of embezzlement, had them arrested, made them do the perp walk etc. The charges were dropped against four of them almost immediately, and the fifth was found innocent after a short trial. To make matters worse, the C's hired some of Hilary's cousins to run the travel office after the arrests.

The C's abused their power, filed false charges, ruined the careers of five decent human beings, and used the highest office in the land to hire their relatives in the clearest example of nepotism in this country since JFK hired his very unqualified brother to be Attorney General.

To be honest with you, Whitewater, Monica, Chinagate, etc. just didn't bother me that much. I still think that Bill and Hilary should be wearing orange jumpsuits for what they did to those five guys. When the powerful clash, that's one thing. I mean those guys sign up for that sort of thing. They live for it. But when the powerful destroy the weak, the rule of law is undermined. It cannot be tolerated.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-04-21 11:20:11 PM  

#23  Aris, I disagree with you on many, if not most, things, but an idiot, you're definitely not. Now, Antiwar may redefine the term as far as how low it can go and still have a vertebrae
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-21 11:00:14 PM  

#22  11A5S: I couldn't remember either, but great guess! It was Dean Acheson, Sec State, in a speech in Jan 1950. At least, that is what we were taught, but, things were probably a lot grayer than that.

And, it seems that the invasion was basically Kimmie Sr.'s baby.
Posted by: Carl in N.H.   2004-04-21 10:46:06 PM  

#21  Shipman> "Aris is a lot of things.... but not an idiot."

Why, thank you! I do believe that's the nicest thing anyone has ever told me in Rantburg. :-)
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-04-21 9:21:53 PM  

#20  Raj> Not sure -- it'd be a toughie. I've not studied Chinagate sufficiently but if the little I heard about it is accurate, then Clinton's worse than Bush.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-04-21 9:02:42 PM  

#19  ..."Auntie War", whose disjointed mewlings are not even useful for comic relief.

Not entirely true, in my opinion. Yes, her run-of-the-mill drivel is just that; but once in a while she lets go with a real screamer, a titanic pie-thrower that's truly worth the wait. Her best stuff is when she gets really frustrated and tries to sic the Holy Trinity on us by damning us to Hell.

So far, alas, God doesn't seem to be taking her any more seriously than we do.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-04-21 8:24:35 PM  

#18  Plus Carl, some high muckety-muck in the Truman administration (Sec State? too lazy too Google) had defined America's security zone in the Far East in a major policy speech and left Korea off the list. It didn't take Stalin long to move.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-04-21 8:21:42 PM  

#17  Okay, I am going to come out firmly in favor of Aris, and against "Auntie War", whose disjointed mewlings are not even useful for comic relief.

Now that that unpopularity contest is out of the way, I got this same thing via email a while back. One thing that struck me was the bit "Truman ... started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us" which I thought was untrue, since I seemed to recall that we had *some* troops in Korea at the time. However, lo and behold, a little fact checking showed that the first substantial numbers of troops were sent on July 1, more than a week *after* N Korea attacked.
Posted by: Carl in N.H   2004-04-21 8:04:57 PM  

#16  man, I bet that hurt! are you OK Raj?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-21 7:44:51 PM  

#15  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-21 7:40:32 PM  

#14  Raj, as you can see, I concur
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-21 7:31:09 PM  

#13  Is Antiwar the most uninformed troll, completely bereft of logic?

Shit, yeah...
Posted by: Raj   2004-04-21 7:29:54 PM  

#12  that was a vote of confidence, thanks, idiot
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-21 7:28:34 PM  

#11  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-04-21 7:16:35 PM  

#10  Aris is a lot of things.... but not an idiot.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-04-21 6:51:40 PM  

#9  I read these comments all the time. I've come to a conclusion regarding a particular commentor..... aris is a fucking idiot.
Posted by: Halfass Pete   2004-04-21 5:29:36 PM  

#8  While this one has lasted for more than a year.
Iraq hasn't yet been "taken".


Because "taking" Iraq WW2-style wasn't the plan. Now if Iraq had been assaulted that way, it would have been a done deal a long time ago. The downside to that would be the multitude of complaints about doing it in such a manner.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-04-21 4:43:01 PM  

#7  Yeah, bush sucks, for example, aris kasaris is still on the loose, and he's done nothing about it.
Posted by: Comment Top   2004-04-21 4:31:11 PM  

#6  Aris - who would you rate a better president, Clinton or GWB?
Posted by: Raj   2004-04-21 4:19:15 PM  

#5  You know what Aris at least he did something,more than I can say for the rest of the Damn world which would have sat back and did nothing.
Posted by: djohn66   2004-04-21 4:07:58 PM  

#4  For taking on terrorism, and for improving the economy, he's definitely in the top 10, and could make his way into the top 5 by the time he's done.
Posted by: geezer   2004-04-21 4:03:48 PM  

#3  As for the nuclear inspectors: please.

That's substantive.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-21 3:40:13 PM  

#2  "In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people."

Iraq hasn't been liberated yet, by any reasonable definition of "liberation" -- no democracy yet, no indepedence, personal freedoms being restricted by the mullah's militias rather than Saddam's forces. The Taliban were defeated but haven't yet been crushed. As for the nuclear inspectors: please.

And if Al-Qaeda has been "crippled" I've admittedly failed to notice it.

I agree with you that Bush probably isn't the worst US president in history. But he's also far from the best.

"It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation. "

While this one has lasted for more than a year.
Iraq hasn't yet been "taken".
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-04-21 3:20:55 PM  

#1  Amen to that, brother!
Posted by: Raj   2004-04-21 3:11:20 PM  

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