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Saudi fatwa urges use of ’all means’" to halt ’fierce onslaught’ on Muslims
2004-04-15
Saudi Arabia’s religious authority issued a fatwa, or religious edict, yesterday urging Muslims to use "all means" to stop what it called "the fierce onslaught" on Muslims by "occupation forces" in Iraq.
"Guns, rockets, explosives... You guys know what 'all means' is..."
What Muslims in Iraq are being subjected to amounts to "one of the worst kinds of injustice and aggression" and is a "criminal act," said the permanent committee for scientific research and issuing of fatwas, chaired by grand mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh. The committee "strongly denounces the killing, terrorising of peaceable (civilians), destruction of property and demolition of mosques over the heads of worshippers, which the Muslim brethren in Iraq are being subjected to, especially in the city of Fallujah at the hands of the occupation forces," it said. The committee "urges every fair person among Muslims and others in the world to denounce this fierce onslaught and strive by all means to stop it and punish those responsible for it," said the fatwa, carried by the state SPA news agency.
Yeah. When's the bus leaving Riyadh for Fallujah?
The six-member committee, which is derived from the Council of Senior Ulema headed by the mufti, did not specifically name US forces, but called on Iraqis to close ranks and be "confident of God’s victory." The Saudi government on Monday expressed "concern" over the loss of civilian lives in Iraq, reiterating earlier calls for a greater United Nations role to shepherd the war-torn country to stability. The Saudi appointed Shura (consultative) Council also issued a statement on Monday saying it was "appalled at the killing, displacement and destruction" unfolding in Iraq and calling for an immediate halt to the bloodshed.
Posted by:TS

#25  You say that like it's a bad thing, NMM...
Posted by: Raj   2004-04-16 10:16:54 PM  

#24  Such a damn shame we didn't pursue the Neutron bomb and drop it all over the M.E.
Posted by: Not Mike Moore   2004-04-16 10:02:12 PM  

#23  Saudi fatwa urges use of ’all means’ to halt ’fierce onslaught’ on Muslims

Some well lobbed nukes would end this "feirce onslaught on Muslims" almost instantly and forever.

Be very careful what you wish for because someday you may get it.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-04-16 12:09:32 AM  

#22  Dave(UK) very cool!

Shipman, Glad you saw that! Mohmo de fake-o.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-04-15 11:25:41 PM  

#21  The Religion of Perpetual Victims whines again... and again... and again...
Posted by: tu3031   2004-04-15 9:03:17 PM  

#20  Mr. Guy, I belive that the dropper of this fat boy is not a major player.

There is no god named allah
mohammed was a liar.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-04-15 7:27:17 PM  

#19  What Muslims in Iraq are being subjected to amounts to "one of the worst kinds of injustice and aggression" and is a "criminal act," said the permanent committee for scientific research and issuing of fatwas, chaired by grand mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh...
Worse than what happened in 1991 after the crushing of the Shi'a intifada? I've not seen footage of any members of As-Sadr's Jaish al-Mahdi being trusted up like chickens & squashed under MBTs or doused in petrol & set alight for a laff. AFAIK US forces haven't yet started painting slogans like 'No Shi'a after today' on their tanks or begun tying kids to army vehicles to act as human shields. Maybe your boys should start dropping leaflets over Najaf claiming that only civilians who exit the city by a particular road will be spared, and then when said road's jamed solid send in some gunships to shoot 'em up (it was all fine & dandy when Saddam did this kind of thing, it goes without saying...)
The committee "strongly denounces the killing, terrorising of peaceable (civilians), destruction of property and demolition of mosques over the heads of worshippers, which the Muslim brethren in Iraq are being subjected to, especially in the city of Fallujah at the hands of the occupation forces," it said.
I sure as hell didn't hear any of these guys complaining when it was Shi'a mosques being shelled by the RG. I wonder why?
BTW the 'scientific research' in question may involve promulgation of the late Ibn Baz's novel theory of planetary dynamics (namely the idea that Ptolemy was right all along & the sun really does orbit the Earth - set out in a book titled Jarayan ash-Shams wa'l Qamar wa sukoun al-Ard - The motion of the sun & the moon & the stationarity of the Earth), or maybe an attempt to work out the correlation coefficient between lack of piety & lack of rainfall (apparently a recent concern of the Grand Mufti.)
Posted by: Dave (UK)   2004-04-15 7:14:10 PM  

#18  "Fierce onslaught," my ass. These people have never been properly calibrated, and they're confusing "mild criticism" with a "fierce onslaught."

We need to calibrate them. Nuke Riyadh.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-04-15 5:44:51 PM  

#17  Crazyfool, I had the exact same reaction to the name of the committee as you did. And I was wondering how busy the committee on scientific research could possibly be in that scientific desert. I'd say they probably issue more fatwahs than make proclamations about scientific research. I don't think they have a lot of scientific research going on in the kingdom (other than maybe the occasional doctoral thesis arguing for the increased use of C4 [as opposed to traditional dynamite] in Paleo suicide booms, for example, or perhaps a study on the agricultural uses of camel dung)
Posted by: Kentucky Beef   2004-04-15 3:41:01 PM  

#16  Mike: Didn't you know, all Muslims are victims!
Posted by: Spot   2004-04-15 2:11:03 PM  

#15  Has this Committee for Scientific Research and Issuing of Fatwas ever issued a fatwa against honor killings? How many Moslem women are murdered every year, year after year? Don't these Moslem victims deserve a fatwa too?
Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-04-15 12:39:54 PM  

#14  Just kill them. After awhile, they'll run out of moonbats, and stfu. If not, sooner or later they'll run out of reproductive units, and we'll end the problem another way. Either way will work. Since they refuse to accept the fact that we're NOT going to roll over and join their wacky moonbat religion, we have no other choice. If they need someone to handle a weapon, I'm available, and my deeply-held religious beliefs will allow me to do this without suffering any lasting harm.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-04-15 12:13:52 PM  

#13  Keeper of the Two Holy Mosque Radiation Exclusion Zones.
Posted by: Tom   2004-04-15 12:12:43 PM  

#12  I hate to be "Mr Guy" about this kind of thing. But this Holy piece of fake (may Moh slay the dragon) should have been dead six months ago. Along with his family, zoo animals, servants. His house and garages should be dust. The Mercedes and Masserattis just crumpled sheet metal.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-04-15 11:57:49 AM  

#11  mva, from your mouth to W's ear!
(I have a strong feeling that they're doing just that!)
I agree--someday, we're going to have to have it out with the Saudis once and for all.
In that the Saud government sponsors these clerics, you're also right to want to know whether they speak "officially" for the government of SA.
If not, why not?
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-15 11:39:59 AM  

#10  LOL! Yeah I know, I'm dreaming.

Still, it seems to me the WoT is going to end up being fought on Saudi soil eventually. Might not be a bad idea for somebody in the Administration to be copying down and taking notes on all these Fatwas, so when the inevitable congressional commission is put together afterwards they'll have a nice, tidy stack of "smoking guns" over which to ruminate.
Posted by: mva30   2004-04-15 11:34:16 AM  

#9  "What they fail to grasp is that these people are a simple people." -- Unmutual
They fail to understand Dubya for the same reason: they just don't understand people who actually say what they mean. I feel misunderstood too.
Posted by: Tom   2004-04-15 11:32:52 AM  

#8  LLLs ignore each and every instance like this, because they make the assumption that hostile rhetoric is nothing but "metaphor" and "emotions" doing the talking.

What they fail to grasp is that these people are a simple people. They mean every word of it when they issue fatwas and call for the killing of Jews and miscellaneous infidels.
Posted by: Unmutual   2004-04-15 11:25:01 AM  

#7  No doubt the Saudi Royals will take this moment to champion free speech, mva30. No way they could jeopardize their "reforms" with a crack-down on free speech.
Posted by: Tom   2004-04-15 11:14:24 AM  

#6  The man should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, if they have such a thing as law.

Most likely not doable. By their laws, such declarations are probably perfectly legal.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-04-15 10:57:15 AM  

#5  "...and punish those responsible for it."

It is funny how we all seem to have filters on when it comes to listening to these religious Poobah types. After all the absurd rhetoric we've heard from these people, we tend to ignore the obvious. I do believe, unless I'm mistaken, that he just declared war on the United States of America and its coalition partners! At the very least we should ask the Saudi government for a clarification, does this guy speak for them or doesn't he? If he doesn't they should say so, and make it clear that they firmly and forever disagree with such declarations. The man should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, if they have such a thing as law.

If he does speak for them, well, then the burden is on us, the United States and the rest of the coalition. Do we go on the offensive against such people who wish to do us harm, as President Bush has said we will, now or some time in the extremely near future?

I don't see any other choices, it certainly seems apparent to me that ignoring "Fatwas" from Muslim clerics has done us more harm than good.
Posted by: mva30   2004-04-15 10:33:21 AM  

#4  Well, we here at the National Sarcasm Society ("Like we need your support") disagree totally with whatever nonsense these twits said.
Posted by: mojo   2004-04-15 10:30:17 AM  

#3  Well, here at the Foundation for Astrophysics and Applied Drinking, we say those guys need to pull their heads out of their asses.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-15 10:20:18 AM  

#2  Well, the American Institute for the Advancement of Freedom and Small Engine Repair, issued a statement saying; "Piss on saudi arabia and their "holy men". As long as they threaten us.....WE WILL KILL THEM".
Posted by: Halfass Pete   2004-04-15 10:15:44 AM  

#1  said the permanent committee for scientific research and issuing of fatwas,

BRahahahahaha... Love the title.....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-04-15 9:49:24 AM  

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