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Europe
Eurabia?
2004-04-05
In the 52nd chapter of his ’’Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,’’ Edward Gibbon posed one of the great counterfactual questions of history. If the French had failed to defeat an invading Muslim army at the Battle of Poitiers in A.D. 732, would all of Western Europe have succumbed to Islam? ’’Perhaps,’’ speculated Gibbon with his inimitable irony, ’’the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomet.’’

When those words were published in 1788, the idea of a Muslim Oxford could scarcely have seemed more fanciful. The last Muslim forces had been driven from Spain in 1492; the Ottoman advance through Eastern Europe had been decisively halted at the gates of Vienna in 1683. Today, however, the idea seems somewhat less risible. The French historian Alain Besancon is one of a number of European intellectuals who detect a significant threat to the continent’s traditional Christian culture. The Egyptian-born writer Bat Yeor has for some years referred to the rise of a new ’’Eurabia’’ that is hostile in equal measure to the United States and Israel. Two years ago, Pat Buchanan published an apocalyptic book titled ’’The Death of the West,’’ prophesying that declining European fertility and immigration from Muslim countries could turn ’’the cradle of Western civilization’’ into ’’its grave.’’

Such Spenglerian talk has gained credibility since 9/11. The ’’3/11’’ bombings in Madrid confirm that terrorists sympathetic to Osama bin Laden continue to operate with comparative freedom in European cities. Some American commentators suspect Europeans of wanting to appease radical Islam. Others detect in sporadic manifestations of anti-Semitism a sinister conjunction of old fascism and new fundamentalism. Most European Muslims are, of course, law-abiding citizens with little sympathy for terrorist attacks on European cities. Moreover, they are drawn from a wide range of countries and of Islamic traditions, few of them close to Arabian Wahhabism. Nevertheless, there is no question that the continent is experiencing fundamental demographic and cultural changes whose long-term consequences no one can foresee.

To begin with, consider the extraordinary prospect of European demographic decline. A hundred years ago -- when Europe’s surplus population was still crossing the oceans to populate America and Australasia -- the countries that make up today’s European Union accounted for around 14 percent of the world’s population. Today that figure is down to around 6 percent, and by 2050, according to a United Nations forecast, it will be just over 4 percent. The decline is absolute as well as relative. Even allowing for immigration, the United Nations projects that the population of the current European Union members will fall by around 7.5million over the next 45 years. There has not been such a sustained reduction in the European population since the Black Death of the 14th century. (By contrast, the United States population is projected to grow by 44 percent between 2000 and 2050.) With the median age of Greeks, Italians and Spaniards projected to exceed 50 by 2050 -- roughly 1 in 3 people will be 65 or over -- the welfare states created in the wake of World War II plainly require drastic reform. Either today’s newborn Europeans will spend their working lives paying 75 percent tax rates or retirement and ’’free’’ health care will simply have to be abolished. Alternatively (or additionally), Europeans will have to tolerate more legal immigration. But where will the new immigrants come from? It seems very likely that a high proportion will come from neighboring countries, and Europe’s fastest-growing neighbors today are predominantly if not wholly Muslim. A youthful Muslim society to the south and east of the Mediterranean is poised to colonize -- the term is not too strong -- a senescent Europe.
Posted by:tipper

#12  A few nukes launched to the Mideast would cut those nasty demographic numbers.Unfortunately,we have to exterminate these rats.They called the terms of war,Islam or death...they will get death.
Posted by: WhiteHouseDetox   2004-04-06 12:24:11 AM  

#11  Yep, that article pretty much sums up the EuroStan that is developing before our eyes.

Shipman---that transatlantic tunnel sounds like quite a challenge. Frank and I will design in in our spare time. An especially challenging part will be an expansion joint along the mid atlantic ridge, where seafloor spreading occurs. It will have to withstand 6000 to 9000 psi, too. No problem.
Posted by: Alaska Paul on the Road   2004-04-06 12:04:33 AM  

#10  Steve White: you want it to go from Liverpool to Boston????? That's a helluva expensive proposition, for two reasons:

First, Boston is Teddy Kennedy turf. It would take hundreds of billions of dollars just to build the tunnel entrance ramps.

And second, the westernmost thousand miles or so of that tunnel will have to be built with a breakdown lane for Bostonians to drive on during rush hour- otherwise they won't know how to cope.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-04-05 8:58:37 PM  

#9  If the Grey Lady is printing this, you know its bad. Once again, you read it at Rantburg first.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-04-05 6:12:44 PM  

#8  It is inevitable. As people and cultures struggle for, and eventually achieve a better existence, they loose the raw, emotional passion of the original struggle. Having is not always as good as wanting. Muslims have that fire in their belly. Hah!..the joke's on them! Wait until they get what they want!
Posted by: Vandor   2004-04-05 3:49:43 PM  

#7  SteveW, is the Chunnel v. 2.0 what they mean by the "Big Dig"?
Posted by: RWV   2004-04-05 2:16:10 PM  

#6  As a native, I claim the right to attach (merrie olde) England to New England. Apart from the many historical and cultural reasons, our weather is a good match :)
Posted by: Carl in N.H   2004-04-05 2:02:37 PM  

#5  Cheez, Dave, no need for that. If the Brits can build the Chunnel, we can build version 2.0 from Liverpool to Boston. It could even tie into the new expressway there. I suppose our friends to the north would want a branch tunnel to Halifax, seems only fair.
Posted by: Steve White   2004-04-05 1:55:34 PM  

#4  Where's Aris? Greece will be back in the Ottoman Empire (version 2.0) before long. Europe is in deep shit - damned socialism has done 'em in.
Posted by: Spot   2004-04-05 1:27:56 PM  

#3  The English finally discovered the joy of a metric money system.... if they learn to drive on the proper side of the road I'll be on my way.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-04-05 12:36:34 PM  

#2  I think continental Europe's screwed.

Time to save Mother England: sink thousands of stout pylons deep into bedrock along the U.S. Eastern seaboard, and all across Britain. Then stretch block and tackle between here and there, and start ratcheting.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-04-05 12:11:49 PM  

#1  Scary stuff, but thought-provoking - if only the Euros would listen . . .
Posted by: The Doctor   2004-04-05 12:02:55 PM  

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