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Home Front: Politix
Hillary say husband’s admin deserves a BIG part of credit for US military success in Iraq.....
2004-04-02
Hillary Blasts Bush on Fallujah Attacks
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton blasted the Bush administration on Thursday for sending too few troops and not enough military equipment to Iraq, saying the of lack of U.S. resources contributed to the attacks in Fallujah that killed four U.S. workers on Tuesday.
Okay
"It was heartbreaking and horrible to see the desecration of the four men who were killed in Fallujah," Clinton told Democratic Party radio host Al Franken.
Yes, it was
Calling Fallujah "one of the epicenters of Saddam Hussein’s support," Sen. Clinton said, "Clearly we have to increase our response and make it more effective."
Yea, I can agree with that and thank God, we got the Marines there (seems a few of them, tho, don’t really like you and your husband.... )
She then reminded: "Of course I’ve been saying for more than a year that we didn’t send in enough troops in the beginning. I think the administration wanted to do both Afghanistan and Iraq with as few troops and as limited a commitment as possible. I think it was a mistake."
Where would they go, and with what objectives? Each unit's assigned an area of operations and a mission. Lining the entire U.S. military up shoulder to shoulder to tromp through Iraq from south to north is impractical, as well as stoopid. Practical constraints do exist in the real world, though not in the imagination of cheap politicians.
Clinton said that Bush had made a critical error by not eliminating al Qaeda before attacking Iraq.
Hummmmmm.... eliminate a network, while we allow Saddam to finance them, to harbor them. Thinkin’.... that might have been hard to do, even for that military that her husband created
"I believe that whether or not you agree with the action in Iraq, the timing of it diverted resources and equipment like the Predators and many of our Special Ops and intelligence personnel from Afghanistan prior to getting the job done there with respect to completely eliminating the al Qaeda presence in Afghanistan."
Except that as a strategic move it made sense and still makes sense...
The former first lady also had words of praise for Bush terrorism policy critic Richard Clarke, saying he did a good job in exposing "our shortcomings as a nation."
Our shortcomings as a nation are very dear to the hearts of a certain type of politician...
"Mr. Clarke has, I think, come across very credibly and knowledgeably about what he saw as our shortcomings as a nation, which is a totally fair assessment because we had never been up against an enemy like this before - and what we should be doing to protect ourselves."
Hummmmmmmmm -- and while he was in control, let’s see, we had embassies bombed, the Cole, etc..............
Mrs. Clinton noted that Clarke’s complaints about the Iraq war mirrored her own, saying, "he has made a very important point about the diversion of time, attention and resources and commitment from Afghanistan, which he argues has undermined the overall war against terror. He has to be taken very seriously." While critical of the Bush war policy, she said her husband’s administration deserved a big part of the credit for U.S. military success in Iraq. "So much that had proved successful had been developed during the Clinton administration, tried out in Bosnia and Kosovo, and lessons learned in places like Haiti and Somalia," she told Franken. "And I’m very proud of the very positive record that the Clinton administration had in helping to prepare the military for the future."
She's referring to the combined arms concept, I believe, not that she understands what that is. The lessons learned came from Grenada (communications and intel integration), Panama, and Gulf War I. Bosnia and Kosovo contributed as well, of course: don't rely on the Europeans, continue addressing maintenance problems (remember the Apaches that didn't work?), and don't limit objectives — pretty negative lessons, I'd say. Somalia seems to have provided a "lesson" for Fallujah. Haiti, as far as I can see, provided nothing, not even for the Haitians.
Lessons learned in Somalia? She says this, just after the happenings in Fallujah? I only dream that tomorrow I wake up, and it’s November 3rd... and I remember Sept 11.
Posted by:Sherry

#28  Amen, OP! Can they go tomorrow?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-04-02 9:14:26 PM  

#27  Ya know, Hitlery's got a point. We should learn a lesson from Somalia and Haiti. You don't do anything halfway, which is the primary lesson we should have learned from both operations. Next time, let's send HITLERY to be the new governor of Haiti! I'm sure her and her "black" husband could manage just fine down there. Just make sure the tickets are one-way, and issue self-destructing passports.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-04-02 6:46:26 PM  

#26  
What makes you think that they'll be any brighter in 2004?
I don't, Tom. I think we'll all have to get earplugs to protect our hearing from their screeching.

If Bush wins not only the Electoral College but also the popular vote (in spite of all the dead and non-citizen Democrats voting), they'll still claim he "stole" the election.

I just want to see these wankers and their ass-kissing poodle media implode - preferably in public.

That whirring sound you hear (the one getting louder and louder) is Harry Truman and Hubert Humphrey spinning in their graves.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-04-02 6:37:19 PM  

#25  ...and lessons learned in places like Haiti and Somalia,"

What lesson was that, lady?
Run afuckinway when the shit hits the fan?
Posted by: tu3031   2004-04-02 4:50:55 PM  

#24  Mucky, auld chap, you keep our morale up. thank u frm the bottm of me kintuki frid chickn hart!
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-04-02 4:15:40 PM  

#23  hehe that was purdy funy. im wondering if she do partys.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-04-02 4:05:01 PM  

#22  And here's the official Freeper view of Clintonian BS as personified by Hillary. No wonder the LLL gets so freaked out by Freepers.
Posted by: .com   2004-04-02 4:01:42 PM  

#21  Mucky - try this Flash for one guy's view. You gotta catch (click) her to see it all... Apologies if this puts anyone off their appetite, heh.
Posted by: .com   2004-04-02 3:56:48 PM  

#20  big legs? check - she's got thankles....that's why the pantsuits all the time
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-02 3:47:54 PM  

#19  hillary got big leg? im going check that out sometime.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-04-02 3:36:50 PM  

#18  Small pay raises, reduced benifits, fewer people, higher ops tempo, and Dont't ask, Don't Tell. Oh yeah Billary did much for the military. I dare Billary to find two ex-military that agree with he.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-04-02 3:24:08 PM  

#17  Richard Clarke is a godsend to Kerry and Hillary. By bashing Bush for not being proactive enough to prevent 9/11, it allows the Democrats to move very sharply to the right and away from their primary-driven anti-war position.

It is not fair ball, but this is politics, not baseball.
Posted by: john   2004-04-02 2:00:53 PM  

#16  This beatch has all the balls in the world....

Oooookaaayyyy… that image was scary.
Posted by: Steve from Relto   2004-04-02 12:21:13 PM  

#15  I was a Marine from '90 to '93, and I can tell you that the hatred expressed for the Clintons was widespread. If you had asked my gunny who he hated more, Hillary or Jane Fonda, he'd have to sit down and think about it.
Posted by: BH   2004-04-02 11:16:59 AM  

#14  Fuck that slimy bitch. And her sleazy husband.

That is two jobs I am not willing to take, specially the second. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Posted by: JFM   2004-04-02 10:34:33 AM  

#13  Billary cracks me up. She doesn't give a shit about us in the mil, (unless she thinks she can get a vote out of some of us). She'll play to her core audience of minorities, glaad, quasi-socialists and self-loathing whites everywhere. Though I will give credit where it's due - she got herself elected in NY - not sure if that's because she's so damn savvy or because so many NY'rs are morons. BTW - no self-respecting heterosexual white male would ever vote for that big-legged pig. .........I don't know but I been told, big-legged woman ain't got no soul.........good enough for Zeppelin - good enough for me.
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-04-02 10:27:01 AM  

#12  The Clintons' principal contribution to history is the philosophy that truth is malleable and can be hammered into whatever shape desired to meet their political needs of the moment. You can't be called a liar if you really believe what you say when you say it even though you may say (believe) something totally different mere seconds later. Only the gullible and the true believers pay attention to them. They should apologize to pond scum for giving it a bad name.
Posted by: RWV   2004-04-02 9:34:16 AM  

#11  Barbara: "I hope Bush wins in November, just on general principles (and for the sake of our nation's survival), but I hope he wins in a landslide just to stick it to these sleaze-balls." These sleaze-balls didn't get it when the World Trade Center was blasted the first time. They didn't get it when Bush won in 2000. What makes you think that they'll be any brighter in 2004?

Hillary: "we didn’t send in enough troops in the beginning" Grrrrr.. give us a little credit for the troop count in Libya. We'll try to do better in Syria.



Posted by: Tom   2004-04-02 8:22:50 AM  

#10  More than anything else, this is what pisses me off about the Clintons: they are utterly shameless. This woman should be hanging her head in shame and begging the nation's forgiveness for the damage she and her miserable failure of a husband deliberately inflicted on it.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-04-02 6:08:02 AM  

#9  As is standard operating procedure, Hillary spouts excreta out her anus for a gaping maw. Iraq led to capture of global terror kingpin and ally of al-Qa'ida, Saddam. Saddam capture led to Kadaffy turn. Kadaffy turn led to AQKhan. Outing of AQKhan led to his public confession. AQKhan's public confession led to America allowing Pervez to go easy on national hero, AQKhan, in exchange for going into the TRIBAL AREAS. Going into tribal areas leads to best opportunity to kill or capture Usama.
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-04-02 5:24:34 AM  

#8  
Her husband stripped the military of 8 regular Army divisions, 2 Reserve divisions, 20 Air Force and Navy air wings (about 2000 aircraft), 232 straegic bombers 13 SSBN with 3114 warheads, 500 ICBMs (for another 1950 warheads) 4 aircraft carriers and 121 surface ships and attack subs. 709,000 regular army and 293,000 reservists.

Yeah that helped. That helped a lot you smarmy piece of
Posted by: Ben   2004-04-02 5:08:59 AM  

#7  I'm at the ready to go fight for my country. Wait a minute, you decommissioned both of my ships and then paid me a lump sum to go become an out of shape dad in the civilian world.

A country without a military = Al Gore's govenrmental re-invention. Do the Canadians pay him royalties for the use of his intellectual property? :->
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-04-02 1:44:22 AM  

#6  Oh yeah, the force reductions in the 90's helped to "prepare" our military for the future, all right.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-04-02 1:19:30 AM  

#5  Fuck that slimy bitch. And her sleazy husband. They are a disgrace to our country, and a waste of oxygen.

I hope Bush wins in November, just on general principles (and for the sake of our nation's survival), but I hope he wins in a landslide just to stick it to these sleaze-balls.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-04-02 1:19:05 AM  

#4  Yes, by all means, let us emulate William Jefferson Clinton's stalwart anti-terror policies. Remember our successful counterattack in Somalia; the capture of bin Laden in the Sudan, the ruthless hunt for the Khobar Towers bombers, the . . . oh, wait, sorry, April Fool's Day is over!
Posted by: Mike   2004-04-02 1:14:59 AM  

#3  God, may this woman save us! Where is Muckman. Only her hair dresser knows.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-04-02 12:41:55 AM  

#2  The Clintons' formula for success: Take credit whenever you can and always place the blame on someone else.
Posted by: GK   2004-04-02 12:29:46 AM  

#1  This beatch has all the balls in the world....
it makes me so FURIOUS that she would dare to say these things that I can hardly post about it, because everything she said was a lie (as always) and the exact opposite of her claims.
Yeah, I'll give Billary credit...FOR 9/11!!!
FOAD, Hitlery, and take Bubba with you. You're done.
Posted by: Jen   2004-04-02 12:27:46 AM  

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