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UK Moslems Whine About Declaring Allegiance to the Queen and to Democratic Values
2004-03-30
Following changes in the law on obtaining citizenship in the UK, thousands of people will now be expected to swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen and to vow to obey her and uphold the so-called free and democratic values of Taaghout (false gods). This new law that came into force in January 2004 obliges anyone who wishes to be granted citizenship to swear an oath of allegiance and to pledge that they will uphold the kufr (non-Islamic) law of the land. It is ironic that in a so-called ‘free’ country this new law forces you to either pledge allegiance to the Queen (or to go back to your own country) and at the same time asks you, in contrast, to uphold freedom? Where exactly is the freedom they are referring to?

In fact this embarrassing, humiliating and degrading pledge to obey the Queen clearly shows the hatred, racism and animosity of the British government towards Islaam and Muslims, as Allaah (swt) says in the Qur’aan: “The Jews and Christians (non-Muslims) will never be pleased with you until you follow their religion (and ideology).” (EMQ Al-Baqarah, 2: 120)

The oath follows a raft of measures introduced (and being introduced) by the Blair regime, post 9/11, intended to single out the Muslim community for their racism and attack. These include:
  • Amendments to the Terrorism Act 2000 leading to the internment of several Muslims, for over 2 years, such as Abu Qatadah and the proscription of many Islamic organisations involved in Jihaad related activities.

  • Further amendments to the Terrorism Act, planned by Blunkett, which will introduce military style courts, secret evidence and a lower threshold of guilt for Muslims suspected of Terrorism related offences.

  • A new advertising campaign, launched by the metropolitan police, called ‘Life Savers’ where an image of a women wearing a Nikaab is being used to persuade people to make the city a ‘hostile place for terrorists’
Therefore, it is inevitable for the disbelievers to plot and plan their corruption and tyranny in an apparent ‘prestigious’ manner, calling people to an ‘honourable ceremony’ to declare their worship to the Queen and man-made law. After a speech of welcome, the Superintendent Registrar will invite you to swear the Oath of allegiance or, if you prefer, to speak the affirmation of allegiance:
“I (name) swear by Almighty God that on becoming a British citizen, I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, her Heirs and Successors, according to law.” Or to affirm your allegiance by testifying: “I (name) do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that on becoming a British citizen, I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, her Heirs and Successors, according to law.”
This oath to obey, worship and submit to the Queen is then followed by the pledge of citizenship:
“I will give my loyalty to the United Kingdom and respect its rights and freedoms. I will uphold its democratic values. I will observe its laws faithfully and fulfil my duties and obligations as a British citizen.”
There is no doubt that pledging to worship, obey and submit to the Queen and Taaghout (anything worshipped, obeyed, submitted to or followed other than Allaah) is shirk akbar and kufr in Islaam (i.e. an act of apostasy), As Allaah (swt) says in the Qur’aan: “Be aware that Laa ilaaha illallah (none is worthy of worship, obedience and submission other than Allaah).” (EMQ Muhammad, 47: 19)

The one who pledges to worship other than Allaah is not a Muslim, but rather a heretic and apostate (if he/she claims to be Muslim). This pledge shows the desperation and inferiority of the British government, by forcing people to become non-Muslims through declaring their allegiance to the Queen, may Allaah’s curse be upon her.

Oh Muslims! Do not become apostates by swearing to worship the Queen and taking her as ilaah (i.e. a false god) or andaad (a rival to Allaah). She is not worthy of salaam (greetings), let alone to be worshipped and obeyed. Do no become munaafiq (a hypocrite) by testifying something you do not believe in and be aware that your eemaan (sayings and actions) manifest your belief, therefore if you pledge to worship the Queen (a verbal action) it is a manifestation of your inner (what is in your heart i.e. kufr and shirk).

Oh Allaah, bear witness that we have conveyed the message.

The Followers of Ahl us-Sunnati wal-Jamaa’ah

Don't want to swear allegiance and be a good citizen? Get the hell out. Go back where you came from and make a point of not swearing allegiance there.
Posted by:Mike Sylwester

#13  Does it matter, the Moslems can all move to one country in the EU, dominate it politically, become citizens, then move whereever they want.
Posted by: ruprecht   2004-03-30 11:34:40 PM  

#12  CrazyFool:

He is saying that Muslims cannot be faithful and true to anyone but Allah?

Yes, that's what he's saying. The Islamists have been saying their allegiance is to the ummah and to the coming caliph, not to any government made up only of men.

That other Muslims do little to nothing to contradict them is telling, IMHO.

It is a religion which you can enter into by CHOICE and leave by CHOICE.

No, Islam is a religion you can enter by choice, but for which your life is forfeit if you try to leave.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-03-30 9:53:17 PM  

#11  
Statement by Osama bin Laden: "I am residing in Afghanistan. I have taken an oath of allegiance to Taleban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar ...

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Bin Laden is the undisputed leader, called “emir” or “prince” by his followers, who must take a sworn oath to him, violation of which is punishable by death.

Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-03-30 9:29:32 PM  

#10  Ahem, God save the Queen....
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-03-30 9:19:50 PM  

#9  The Islamists have been pushing and pushing the envelope, just like they have done in Frawnce. Now the gov't of the UK says that you swear allegance to the govt, in this case to the Queen, who represents the govt. In the US we swear to uphold and defend the Constitution.

So now it is choice time:

1. Swear to be part of the country and be responsible, which entitles one to all the rights, privelages, and protections thereto, or

2. Refuse to be part of the country, which entitles one to STFU, GTFO, FOAD, or all three or any combination of the two.

This seems to twist up a few turbans, that is good. Got save the Queen!
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-03-30 8:22:25 PM  

#8  Go UK. Phucks like this have no place in your country, or in any other country worthy of the name. I just hope the PC types don't win this one, not that I expect them too, but I'm sure they're already having the vapors...
Posted by: RMcLeod   2004-03-30 7:26:52 PM  

#7  dumb ass phucks! no asks you to change religions just swear loyalty to your adopted country...do not like it do not come...in the US to obtain a citizenship you also must swear loyalty..kinda of makes sense..unless you have nothing but contempt for your adopted country and in that case your not wanted...
Posted by: Dan   2004-03-30 7:20:43 PM  

#6  Where does it say to worship the Queen? It does say to remain true and faithful but that is not worship. He is saying that Muslims cannot be faithful and true to anyone but Allah?

Second, Islam is not a Race. It is a religion which you can enter into by CHOICE and leave by CHOICE.

And it is not just Muslims who would have to pledge allegiance to the queen by EVERYONE. If I (an american) sought british citizenship I would have to take the same pledge. How is that RACIST (not that Islam is a race) or Hateful.

If you dont like it. Go home.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-03-30 7:16:57 PM  

#5  Everytime I hear these moose-limbs assume the position of authority on "freedom" it makes me wretch. Their idea of freedom is the ability to kill the khufir at will...with Allahs blessing of course. If you don't like the rules, go back to your cess-pool thugogracy of a country. Nooone cares about your sensibilities.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2004-03-30 7:09:42 PM  

#4  I'm tired of hearing about the Arab "sensibilities". It's a crutch for all their mis-deeds. The request sounds ok to me. Can you imagine though Jesse Jackson okaying that in the USA? The Dems would go ballistic and the marchers would run out of walking shoes in protest. Go UK..Gotta love it.
Posted by: Bill Nelson   2004-03-30 6:56:20 PM  

#3  I am getting very fed up of our Muslim 'guests'.

Once their boomers get through and slaughter 200+ innocents (and they will), things will be very different. Comments like this won't be laughed off anymore, let alone ignored.

And as to the Queen not being worthy of greetings, I would just like to point out that the Armed Forces of this country swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen, not the Government of the day. Think on that - shithead.
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2004-03-30 6:53:58 PM  

#2  Not only should any new citizens have to swear this oath in order to obtain their citizenship, the British should go back to all non-native-born who got citizenship in the last 20 years and require them to swear the oath publicly, too, or revoke their citizenship.

Not that I think it would matter. The Koran tells Muslims it's OK to lie to infidels.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-03-30 6:48:22 PM  

#1  Tough. You're guests abide by the house rules.
Posted by: Hiryu   2004-03-30 6:44:53 PM  

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