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| Turkish Imam Boycotted for Advising Men to Help Women Carry Water |
| 2004-03-28 |
| A Muslim preacher in eastern Turkey says he is being boycotted for telling local men to help their wives with the housework, Turkish media reported. "Women do all the work in this village. All I said was men should at least carry the water (from the local well)," Mustafa Platin told Sabah newspaper. His angry flock, who stopped attending the mosque, have asked authorities to remove the preacher. .... Mr Karsli of Kotanduzu village, near Erzurum, accused the imam of frequently insulting village men in traditional Friday sermons. "Instead of teaching us about Islam, he talks nonsense," he said. "The men don’t want to pray with him any more, they go to mosques in neighbouring towns." Imam Mustafa Platin confirmed no more than three villagers joined him, even on the usually busy Friday prayers, in Turkey’s traditionally conservative east. Mr Platin, a 27-year-old father of three, said he meant well. "Women do the washing, they look after the livestock, they cook. And they carry the water. When I told men to help them, they have reacted very harshly." |
| Posted by:Mike Sylwester |
| #7 Russian Society used to have similar traditions. Maybe that is why many mail-order brides come from Russia. There are also many that come from the Philippines - are the women there similarly liberated? |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2004-03-28 10:01:16 PM |
| #6 I carried water and chopped / carried firewood... And to think I once admired you has AbuTroll Slicer. Humph! Side point. Did your commune make Fuller Domes ?(a shot in the dark) |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-03-28 5:24:29 PM |
| #5 11A5S - Thanx! It has begun to feel real to me, since the myn of Islam continually prove to be dedicated and adamant losers -- yet are actually very dependent upon the wymyn to hold everything together while they prance about posturing and car-swarming... |
| Posted by: .com 2004-03-28 3:26:28 PM |
| #4 I'm pretty sure that it was TGA who first made the "Islam changes when women get education and a voice." assertion. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2004-03-28 2:15:32 PM |
| #3 I lived in a commune (yes, I did!) for 8 months. What I found was approx 6 people dedicated to making it work - and 40 "Sharing the experience" types. This is possibly a reasonably consistent percentage of leaders to followers in American society at large - and possibly folds into an answer to Dave D's question in the Canadian Prison PC thread. Anyway, the reason I'm posting on this thread is that I carried water and chopped / carried firewood... so I know a bit about the topic. These Moozlums are typically lazy no-account lamers sharing the experience. Eventually I tired of working my ass off while most around me stayed perpetually stoned to the point of being useless. They weren't even good lays - the typical "bribe" offered to the worker bees. Mebbe these Turkish wymyn will do the same - and leave the lamers to fend for themselves. I'll bet these Turk men are lousy lays, too. I'm still not sure who posited the idea that Islam will change when the wymyns decide to take control and force change. No one responded to it when I asked OP if it was him the other day. More and more I'm coming to believe that, once there IS some reform and they begin to have enough freedom to caucus with each other - then the wymyns will be at that tipping point where they CAN change things. While completely isolated and deprived, they have little chance... But give them some air and it strikes me as possible they can do the rest. THEN, perhaps, we will see a true moderate Islam begin to emerge from the swamp it is today. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-03-28 1:22:55 PM |
| #2 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted] |
| Posted by: Anonymous TROLL 2004-03-28 1:17:15 PM |
| #1 This is just plain damn wrong. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-03-28 12:07:42 PM |