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Red Cross Raps Israel Over West Bank Barrier
2004-02-18
The International Red Cross assailed Israel’s West Bank barrier Wednesday as a violation of humanitarian law for slashing through land envisaged for a Palestinian state under a U.S.-backed peace plan. Three U.S. envoys met aides to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on his plan to evacuate settlers from the Gaza Strip, also occupied by Israel. The Palestinians proposed international peacekeepers move into Gaza once the Israelis move out.
Provides a fresh target set, y'know...
Sharon says his unilateral strategy aims to defuse conflict with a U.S.-backed peace plan in tatters from persistent violence. But Israel has also kept building the barrier taking in land Palestinians want for a state, raising U.S. concern. In Geneva, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said the barrier in its current form, winding well inside the West Bank and trapping thousands of Palestinians in enclaves, violated international humanitarian law. Israel’s Geneva ambassador, Yaakov Levy, repeated its position that the barrier was a "self-defense" measure against suicide bombers penetrating the Jewish state, not a new border. Palestinians call it a veiled bid to annex occupied territory. Sharon planned to pitch unilateral "disengagement" steps to Elliot Abrams and Stephen Hadley, two national security advisers to President Bush, and State Department official William Burns, in talks running through Thursday. The trio first met Sharon’s chief of staff, Dov Weisglass, Thursday. Political sources close to Sharon said he wanted to pave the way to a White House meeting with Bush to obtain his backing for removing around 7,500 settlers from Gaza, which Israel captured along with the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war. They said the right-wing premier had also decided to alter parts of the barrier’s route at the behest of Washington to remove elongated loops around some West Bank settlements and avoid caging entire Palestinian cities in the future.
Knowing something of Sharon, he probably started out hard so had had something to compromise with later. The eventual wall will probably end up following the 1967 line pretty closely. And it'll still be a wall, seethe as the Paleos may.
"The envoys will try to keep Israel as much as possible on the path of reciprocal steps outlined by the road map, which remains U.S. policy, " a diplomatic source said. The road map requires Israel to stop expanding settlements, especially in the West Bank, and Palestinians to rein in militants to enable a viable Palestinian state to emerge in the West Bank and Gaza by 2005.
Removing the settlers would seem to comply with the roadkill provisions. I'm thinking real hard, but I can't come up with anything the Paleos have done to comply...
"But the envoys will also want to listen to what Sharon has to say about the unilateral plan given a lot of conflicting reports about what it entails," the diplomat told Reuters.
Sharon's probably making it up as he goes along...
Citing leaks from Sharon’s office, Palestinians fear Israel expects to trade in Gaza for permanent control over wide swathes of the West Bank within the course of the barrier where the vast majority of the 230,000 Jewish settlers live.
... and they're feeding the Paleos every ridiculous thing they can think of to keep them seething instead of thinking clearly, assuming that's possible...
Israeli political sources said evacuations were unlikely to begin until October or November given many hurdles in Sharon’s way, including expected Supreme Court battles by settlers and the need for legislation to compensate and relocate them. "This will be a long story," said one Sharon confidant.
... and if it's not possible, they'll bore them to death with details.
Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei called for international peacekeepers in Gaza if Israel left without a peace deal. Muslim militants sworn to Israel’s destruction dominate the small Mediterranean territory. Israeli and U.S. officials dismissed the idea. "He’s asking others to do his work for him," a State Department official said in Washington. "It’s not that the Palestinians can’t do it, it’s that they won’t ... act against terrorists in areas they are supposed to be responsible for."
If they'd done that, things wouldn't be at this point.
It would seem that one has to be human to understand human rights. Unfortunately the Israli administration currently hasn’t evolved like the rest of the human race.

The seem to be acting reasonably to me. And even though we routinely belittle the intellectual capacity and moral attainments of the Paleos on these pages, we usually allow for the fact that they're human.

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Posted by:Crux

#14  I guess I missed the red cross' condemnation of the paleos using ambulances to transport explosives.

But hey...they've had a bias against Israel from the beginning. they allow the red crescent and some other red thing to be affiliated with them. 'won't allow a red Mogen David, the Israeli version because of some trumped up, whatever fu*ked up reasons.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-2-18 4:33:31 PM  

#13  CrazyFool -- they're too worried about Club Gitmo to concern themselves with that stuff.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-2-18 4:11:57 PM  

#12  Anyone know the Red thingie's position on the deliberate targetting and murder-in-cold-blood of innocent men, women, and children by Hamas or the PA?

And I dont just mean in Israel but Iraq, Saudi-arabia, Thailand, Indoneasia, etc.....

Anyone??
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-2-18 3:46:12 PM  

#11  I sent my question to "anotari.gva@icrc.org"; she's supposed to be the Red Thingy's spokeman, er "spokesperson". I asked:

Since the ICRC has taken a stance on the wall being built by Israel, I'm
curious as to your position on the wall being built by Saudi Arabia along
its border with Yemen. Yemen claims the wall is being built, in some
sections, inside their territory. Saudi Arabia claims the wall is being
built to keep out infiltrators from Yemen.

Does the ICRC have a position on this? If not, why not? If so, what is the
reasoning behind this position?

Thank you!


No answer, yet. I don't expect one, ever.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-2-18 3:01:28 PM  

#10  Fred, I don't know why the poster chose to name his/herself Cruex, but I have a funny story about the product. During Plebe Summer, with all the hummidity in the Annapolis area, a large percentage of male midshipmen develop crotch-rot. Anyway, you're restricted to base so you can't go out in town to buy Cruex. Well, the Midshipman store runs out of Cruex in the middle of my 6-week, see. But my roomate still has a can of Dessinex for athletes-foot. You can guess the rest but it involves me yowling in pain and doesn't have much to do with the Palestinian question.... Hey, actually it might. I get the same type of pain whenever a new asshat post another Spodeydope Appologist piece.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-2-18 1:55:26 PM  

#9  Some Thingy there is that doesn't love a wall...
Posted by: BH   2004-2-18 1:40:44 PM  

#8  Crux, it's not "Israli", it's "Zionist Entity". Read your Asshat Handbook, will ya? Do it right!
Posted by: tu3031   2004-2-18 1:38:12 PM  

#7  Yeah, I'd like the email address too, so I can ask the Red Thingy what their position is on the wall being built in India, and soon in Thailand...both being built due to Islamic crazies.
I mean surely they have a strong position on these walls too, right?...right??
Posted by: TS   2004-2-18 1:28:13 PM  

#6  red who?
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K   2004-2-18 1:27:12 PM  

#5   I take it Dean must have just made his announcement.
Posted by: Lil Dhimmi   2004-2-18 1:24:00 PM  

#4  A succession of humane Israeli administrations have shown superhuman concern for human rights by not simply removing to Jordan -- aka the Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine -- Arabs from Judea-Samaria, as Jews were cleansed from the lands of Arabs without compensation or the right of return.
Posted by: Garrison   2004-2-18 1:23:58 PM  

#3  It would seem that one has to be human to understand human rights. Unfortunately the Israli administration currently hasn’t evolved like the rest of the human race.

Is that supposed to mean that Israeli admin. will become human when they will start indiscriminate killing of Palestinians? Perhaps something deeper?
Posted by: marek   2004-2-18 1:21:52 PM  

#2  Anyone have an email address for the public affairs people at the Red Thingy? I wanna get their statement on the wall between Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-2-18 1:20:37 PM  

#1  Who is this Red Cross thing?
Posted by: YesSir ImaFat   2004-2-18 1:14:41 PM  

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