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Iraq
Tribal justice taking hold in some parts of Iraq
2004-02-08
It’s from the Beeb, so all the usual caveats apply ...
As Iraqis wait for the establishment of a new constitution and judicial framework, so-called "tribal courts" are already administering rough justice in the south. On the side of a road in a ramshackle tent tribal elders have gathered for a court case, but it is not an ordinary law court, it’s a tribal court. Shoes are strewn outside and, inside, the elders sit resplendent in traditional garb. The case defies logic - one brother has killed another, but the tribe they belonged to is blaming a rival tribe for the killing. Their argument is that if there had not been a feud with the other tribe, the killing would not have taken place; they are now demanding $20,000 in blood money. Over copious glasses of sugary tea it is all sorted out. As one of the elders, Atahiya Barah Sajid al-Okeli, explains, generally the idea is that the cost of the settlement will ensure the offender won’t offend again. "If we make a decision nobody will dare do anything. We have a tribal system that says once there’s a deal no tribe fights another," he says. "If a criminal is fined he will not do it again; the fine is his punishment." While he defends the tribal court, Sheikh Atahiya still wants the judicial system as a counterbalance, fearing that stronger tribes will always get the upper hand. "Because there is no law and order the tribes have become very strong and so people take their rights through the tribal courts. We want law and government and justice. We don’t want this to continue, because some tribes are stronger than others", he told BBC News Online.

In central Basra the authorities are reconstructing the old courthouse. It was looted and burned in the aftermath of the war last year. Now along with fixing the courthouse the impetus is to set up a modern legal framework. Sir Hilary Synott the head of the coalition authority here in the south says both the tribal and regular systems have to be carefully balanced and both must lead to justice. "People can choose for themselves [and I] don’t necessarily see them as incompatible. The key word is ’justice’," Sir Hilary explains. "If the result is justice and promotes security, law and order then that’s fine".

But tribal justice [is] a world away from the regular system. Here before the daily round of trials law officers set out plastic chairs for a makeshift court. At the moment the venue is a meeting room in the temporary law courts. In direct contrast to the tribal system there are only three judges and no jury. Judge Khazal Daboal Kassam is adamant that tribal justice can only undermine the rule of law. He laughs at the notion that blood money can possibly buy justice. "[It is] difficult to put these two things together, justice is more than the money, because justice is for all the people the money is just for one person", Judge Kassam says. At the tribal court, the discussion is heated, but not about guilt or innocence. Through a complex network of tribal support, both sides know where they stand, now it is just a matter of agreeing the money. Eventually the price is knocked down to $4,000 and a woman, her value to be determined in later negotiations. For many Iraqis it’s a system that works, and in a violent region recompense appears much more practical than locking someone away.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#4  Doesn't the last sentence in the article sound like the Beeb's approval of this tribal system?
Posted by: Rafael   2004-2-8 12:49:13 PM  

#3  As usual, the Beeb misses the point. The fact that Saddam is gone and no longer imposing his own form of "justice" means that, until a new system is imposed upon them, the Iraquis have reverted to their time-honored Islamic / barbaric tribal roots.

Additionally, and typically, the Beeb reporter (as instructed) is trying to satisfy the editorial agenda: 1) the wogs are naturally brutal and barbaric ("Oh how romantic, and perfectly disgusting, Geoffrey! Can we see more?") -- and 2) the war in Iraq has failed to bring (insert several Hyde Park Ranger 'sniff' sounds here) civility.

Only a twit would figure it would be otherwise in a tribal culture which practices Islam and where a power vaccuum exists, even temporarily - because life goes on. The education of Iraq to civility will be long. Were they anything but Islamic, I would be confident of some success. But with Islam in the mix it's clear it will be steeply uphill. Islam truly sucks (them backward). GK's comment certainly nails one insane aspect of it.
Posted by: .com   2004-2-8 11:36:23 AM  

#2  Eventually the price is knocked down to $4,000 and a woman, her value to be determined in later negotiations.
The woman is chattel to settle the debt. Isn't that slavery? I guess the value will depend on which woman (female child?) is selected.
Posted by: GK   2004-2-8 2:13:27 AM  

#1  OK Fine. You'd be messing with deep culture on this stuff.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-2-8 1:02:07 AM  

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