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Florida Dems ready for another ‘stolen election’
2003-12-31
Critics warned Monday that computer error or outright fraud easily could alter the outcome of elections conducted on Palm Beach County’s electronic voting machines. Vincent J. Lipsio, a software design engineer from Gainesville, said he was not a "conspiracy theorist," but expressed concern about the voting equipment put in use in the aftermath of the 2000 presidential election. For example, he said, it would be easy for a beginning computer science student to rig the devices so that 57 percent of all votes next fall go to President Bush — regardless of who the voters actually select.
So if the margin of victory is close to 57% then he is vindicated?
But it would be impossible for a beginning computer science student to rig the devices so the votes would go to a Dem?
There’s a lot of history in American politics of ballot box stuffing," he said. "A few deft keystrokes and all the ballot boxes in a county get stuffed at once."
'ballot box stuffing’ usually occurs in Democrat strongholds, Chicago: Vote early, Vote often.
Lipsio, who volunteers to work on voting issues for the Institute of Electrical & Electronic Engineers, said there are so many potential problems with the computer voting equipment "we will have no way of knowing how the election really went."
Unless our guy wins.
U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Boca Raton, appeared with Lipsio before 200 people at a Democratic event, the Committee to Defeat Bush gathering at Florida Atlantic University.
No Bias to this group!
"I’m not a paranoid person," Wexler said. "I don’t operate from a paranoid point of view." But, he said, the potential for problems is great. Both a purposeful attack on the computer system or just a computer malfunction will put our whole democratic process in chaos."
"So we've started bitching before it happens..."
County Supervisor of Elections Theresa LePore said their analysis was deeply flawed. "It’s just a bunch of lies," she said.
What she really meant to say is: “Damn they found out about our plan.”
LePore said it would be impossible to rig the machines. Someone would have to break into a secure warehouse and tamper individually with 5,000 machines because they aren’t connected. They have no modems, so a hacker could not meddle with them remotely.
Kind of puts a damper on the theory.
Yeah, but those beginning computer science students are smart. They can't really be trusted. We should probably lock them up...
LePore said there are extensive safeguards to ensure the accuracy of votes cast on the electronic machines. They are recorded in three places, and a diagnostic test is performed after each voter uses the machine. What’s more, she added, there is so much testing of the machines and software, starting before the state certifies them through public tests before each election, that any problems would be detected.
That sounds like over-confidence, but as long as they're not on-line h@ackerb0y can't get into them.
Wexler said a simple solution would eliminate doubt. He wants all voting machines retrofitted so that a paper printout spits out each time an electronic vote is cast. That would allow voters to check the accuracy of the machines and provide a backup that could be used if a recount is necessary.
"...which we're determined it's gonna be!"
LePore said that’s not a simple fix. "It’s not as easy as they think where you go to Office Depot and buy a printer off the shelf." Equipment and software compatible with the voting machines has to be developed, go through testing and get state certification. If that ultimately happens, she said, it might cost $600 to $1,000 for each of Palm Beach County’s 5,000 voting machines. That’s $3 million to $5 million.
And, she said, paper printouts would create all sorts of problems. If they had to be counted, it would be a messy process with 500,000 pieces of paper. "You’re injecting humans in the process again, just like they did with the punch cards," she said.
All together now: ‘Hanging Chad!’
The decision is up to the state. No one from the Secretary of State’s Office, which oversees elections, could be reached for comment Monday afternoon. Ruth Pleva, chairwoman of The Committee to Defeat Bush, is among the Democrats who think Bush and the Republicans stole the 2000 election.
And also believes aliens landed in her backyard.
"They would like to steal it once more using the corruptible electronic voting machines," said Pleva, who lives west of Delray Beach.
"We much prefer hanging chads, that we can argue about..."
LePore has become a lightning rod for Democrats since the recount that followed the 2000 presidential elections. Some party members think her strict interpretation of election law helped Bush over Democrat Al Gore in the recount process. Pleva didn’t invite LePore. "I don’t have enemies at my parties," she said.
Man I can’t wait until after the election night! I give it until the morning before we hear from Florida charges of voter fraud and stolen elections. Can you imagine ‘Howling’ Howard after the election night? “Foul! Haliburton, Enron, Disney, and Fox news all colluded to steal my rightful Presidency!” We might have to find a straight jacket for Dr. Dean next November. Well now that they know about our secret plan, how can we rig the election next year?
Posted by:Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)

#12  The far-left fruitbats who stole the Democratic Party some years ago have now set their sights on de-legitimizing the democratic process in its entirety.

This will begin during the primaries if Dean's lead falters (as I predict it will). After that, the Left will forget their claims that the nomination was stolen and shift gears to the general election.

Once a Democratic candidate has been selected (assuming that it is not Dean or one of the serious loons like Kucinich), the focus will shift to de-legitimizing the general election. The Lefties will champion the Democratic nominee, and the media will forget that these same Lefties had recently called that nominee a thief.

As I said on another string, the conspiracy theory du jour among poli-sci and anthropology drones is an absurd rumor that Halliburton "owns the computers that will count the votes."
Of course, there are no such computers and Halliburton is not in the computer business anyway.

This idea of large-scale, unified, centralized manipulation by large corporations is the underlying theme of most fruitbat activism these days.

The objective is to remove the democratic process as an impediment to far Left goals, and legitimize the Left's own presumption of authority.

This is why conspiracy theories are such an integral part of present-day Left-think. As a strategy, conspiracy theories exploit the well-documented factual ignorance of even highly-educated Lefties.

For example, I know lefty professors, people with PhDs, who could not tell you within a hundred years when the American Civil War happened, or to what party Harry Truman belonged.

A couple of years ago, I met a newly minted assistant professor who was completely convinced of the accuracy of Fox TV's notorious Moon Hoax program.
(this claimed the US had faked the Apollo Moon landings of 1969-72)
During the resulting conversation, it emerged that she had no idea of the distance to the Moon, did not know that the Earth goes around the Sun, and was unaware that the US military is not the only military force in the world. I swear that this is true. Her field: Education. She was also "chair" of the county Green Party.

Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-12-31 10:25:13 PM  

#11  Shipman, don't forget Marta. She doubles the Republican base in Palm Beach.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-12-31 8:25:41 PM  

#10  Hell Rush Limbuagh is the only known Republican in Palm Beach County. If you want houmor tho check into Broward County and it's Donk supevisor of elections.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-12-31 6:39:28 PM  

#9  Well, of course they would, Steve. Can't have people drawing attention to voting irregularities like that.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-12-31 6:17:45 PM  

#8  County Supervisor of Elections Theresa LePore said their analysis was deeply flawed.

LePore is a Democrat, folks, as are ALL the Palm Beach County Election Board Commissioners. THEY are the ones that designed and approved the "confusing" butterfly ballot in 2000 (same type we used here in Chicago without complaint). THEY are the ones who counted the ballots first time, second time, third time. THEY are the ones responsible for the whole mess. Not a single Republican touched the ballot design or voting procedure. Ditto for Miami-Dade County.

Here in Chicago, a bunch of whiners like these folks would be drummed outta the Regular Democrat (Daley) organization and dumped in the south branch of the Chicago River.
Posted by: Steve White   2003-12-31 5:14:10 PM  

#7  Hmmm.... Election fraud charges from the Democrats....Can you say "projection"?
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2003-12-31 4:24:47 PM  

#6  I spent the first twenty-six years of my life in this hellhole of a state. Never have I been happier not to be there!
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-12-31 3:35:14 PM  

#5  I really wish the Donks would stop beating this equine corpse. It's not good for the country, it's corrosive to the very concept of voting and laws. If, every damned time they lose, they start whining about stolen elections, pretty soon they'll be pushing the idea that voting doesn't matter, and that they have to take "more direct action".

Can anyone compare how the Republicans acted after 1960? I know you can occasionally hear a Republican complaining about the "irregularities" in some of the voting in that election, but it's never to the degree we're seeing from the Donks. Is that just because of the time, or did Nixon's decision to not contest the results contribute that much to American civility?

God help us if this election's close: there will be blood in the streets.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-12-31 3:34:42 PM  

#4  So what's their excuse going to be if there's a McGovern style blowout nationwide (which is quite possible if Doctor Dimbo's their man)? Is it possible for The Evil Karl Rove to rig every voting machine in the country?

Posted by: tu3031   2003-12-31 2:25:07 PM  

#3  You gotta love it. And Terry Mcuallife just lets these whackjobs hang around, making the dems look more and more ridiculous. The longer he lets these dunces spout, the better off the the Res Publica. Best thing to ever happen to the GOP, hope they don't blow it.
Posted by: 4thInfVet   2003-12-31 2:18:03 PM  

#2  The dems have to face up to the music - Bush did not steal the election in Florida. He won it the American way , with electorial votes.

Also there are some basic facts that are totally ignored by the left media.

All Gore had to do was when his home state of Tenn and he would of been president and not GW.
The electorial vote counts were:
Bush - 271
Gore - 266

And this is with GW winning Florida and Tenn.

If Gore had won Tenn and lost Florida the electorial vote count would of been:
Bush - 260
Gore - 277

And Gore would be president. Now if the people of Gore's home state do not want him what does that tell you? They have had experiance with him, before being Clinton's lackey he was a senator from Tenn.. Obviously he did not live up to expectations.

Of historical note Gore's father (Gore Sr.) lost the Democratic Tenn primaries for the 1948 presidential elections. Seems to a track record here of the people of Tenn not wanting a Gore.
Posted by: Dan   2003-12-31 2:04:39 PM  

#1  These whining idiots amaze me. They keep claiming that bush 'stole' the election even after each and every recount - even the media recount (hardly a unbised source itself) went bush'es way.

Here they are already claiming that Bush stole the election 10 months before the first ballot is cast!
Posted by: CrazyFool   2003-12-31 1:42:42 PM  

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