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Iraq
US troops err in civilian killings
2003-11-18
Or maybe not...
Three Iraqis - including a child — have been shot dead by US troops in the capital while two occupation soldiers were killed in attacks north of Baghdad. The three Iraqis were killed on Monday at Baghdad’s gun market when US soldiers mistook gunfire of customers testing weapons for an attack. According to Iraqi police, the dead included an 11-year-old boy, while four others were also wounded. The apparently mistaken shooting of civilians began when a group of Iraqis were testing a gun in the market by firing it in the air, said Major Ali Rykan of the Iraqi police. As they shot, four US armoured cars passed by, Rykan said.
Making it a particularly stupid time to test fire a gun...
At least two US soldiers opened fire on the market, killing the three, said Rykan and Hashem Naim Muhammad, a witness. His 11-year-old nephew, Akil Hussain Naim, was among the dead. The shooting took place at the Mraydi market, a three-kilometre-long market that is famous in Baghdad as a place where one can buy guns. In Iraq, it is legal for a family to own one gun for self-defence.
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#11  It's Iraq. An occupied country. No NRA. No anything else. If you have a gun, and we see it, you die.
Posted by: Bones   2003-11-18 5:28:40 PM  

#10  when US soldiers mistook gunfire of customers testing weapons for an attack

I just marvel at the IQ level, or la-la mentality that is required to be willing to admit that you believe this stuff.

On a brighter note, I'm actually heartened by the news on rantburg today. The increasing number of bogus accusations like this one shows how hysterical the anti-american pathology has become. The shrill and ridiculous nature of the complaints shows such desperation that it is becoming downright embarassing to watch.

I guess it's just a percentage-of-the-population kind of thing. From the trivial nature of what's causing the left to spasm lately it's clear that you really don't need to come up with anything of substance ...just put forth any ol' lame thing and then say.....GO!GO!GO!GO! Like a Quaker Revival, these people will suddenly start shaking and quaking and spewing chants. I guess it makes sense when you are so caught up in the moment, but it looks pretty damn ridiculous to everyone else.
Posted by: B   2003-11-18 4:52:23 PM  

#9  Hey, apropos the gratuitous NRA association that NMM made, somebody tell me what the NRA's position is on testing guns by firing them up in the air in the middle of a city ? This is in the "unsafe practice" category, right ? Along with waving guns around in the presence of US armor ?
Posted by: Carl in N.H.   2003-11-18 12:28:51 PM  

#8  the gun market was banned, these assholes just don't grasp that, do they?
Posted by: Frank G   2003-11-18 9:43:26 AM  

#7  I belong to the NRA. As Swiggles said, and I can attest as one who practices firearm safety regularly at my job & at home that the NRA has outstanding gun/hunter safety programs. Respect for the weapon is paramount and is taught well by the NRA. If they are Nazis about anything its safe gun handling - which is exactly what we stress in the USMC.

As far as politics go - they are just as much on Bush's ass about renewing the asslt wpns ban as they are on McCain & Lieberman for introducing new legislation. They don't care which side of the aisle your own. E.G. - They like Dean's record on pro-gun statutes in VT. However, If you're going to try and pass legislation that is harmful (or just stupid) to law-abiding citizens who own firearms - then they are on your ass. They are a good organization that's been lied about over & over by scared anti-gun weenies and p.o.s. politicians like Fienstein. If no one was trying to pass stupid laws absolving our rights to protect our families and homes, there would be no NRA, there would not be a need -think about it. Mike Moore (not our own NMM) made a lot of cash embellishing and misrepresenting them. I know a lot of NRA folks, not one belongs to any 'local militias' or anti-gov'ment movements. (though I'm sure a few out there do)

I feel bad these four Iraqis got killed, but their system failed them, I don't blame the troops one bit - I'm sure the media leeches will though. The local authorities need to set up a hasty range in an open area and tell us what's going on there. This would stop repeat incidents & fix future problems.
Posted by: Jarhead   2003-11-18 9:24:13 AM  

#6  Unfortunately for NMMbutjustasstupid, NRA preaches gun safety as well. And shooting at people who have superior fire power, is not safe. So the NRA would probably be completely against this type of gun use.
Posted by: Swiggles   2003-11-18 8:55:12 AM  

#5  The NRA is truly non-partisan believe it or not. They support Howard Dean because he's pro-Gun. Fact is less Democrats are pro-Gun so it appears that the NRA supports Republicans but they have sided with Democrats over Republicans at times.
Posted by: Yank   2003-11-18 8:52:40 AM  

#4  Bite me,NMM.
Posted by: Raptor   2003-11-18 8:19:43 AM  

#3  The Republicans? Why doesn't the NRA give has much to the Democrats? It's doesn't seem fair.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-11-18 7:52:22 AM  

#2  The NRA sez it's OK and we all know which political party they support
Posted by: NotMikeMoore   2003-11-18 1:22:37 AM  

#1  A gun market. Great. What's next, 1-800-buy-bombs? I thought everyone was supposed to turn in their guns. Wasn't there an amnesty or something shortly after the war?
Posted by: Rafael   2003-11-18 1:02:45 AM  

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