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EU elite are filthy pigs, says Bossi
2003-10-23
The European Union’s elite are determined to destroy Europe’s Christian heritage, Italy’s reform minister, Umberto Bossi said yesterday.
That is (forgive me) gospel truth, but you don’t normally hear anyone from EUrabia talking about it.
He described the elite as "filthy pigs" who wanted to "make paedophilia as easy as possible".
I’m not actually sure what he’s talking about here, but if it insults the French and those who wish they were French (Belgians and Democrats), then I’m all for it. You go Bossi!

Mr Bossi, leader of the Northern League (The guys that wanted to split the northern (profitable) portion of Italy from the southern (welfare state) portion. I’m going to go out on a limb here and bet that they aren’t big fans of the EU), said Brussels was "transforming vices into virtues" and "advancing the cause of atheism every day". He denounced the European arrest warrant as a step towards "dictatorship, deportation, and terror, instilling fear in the people, a crime in itself". It would lead to a Stalinist regime "multiplied by 25".
True, true, and, oh yeah, true.
One day Italian citizens would be locked up on the orders of Turkish judges not a happy thought, he told Il Giornale newspaper, which is owned by the family of the Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi. He added that the euro was a "total flop", its inflationary effects costing ordinary people "a fortune" in lost purchasing power.

This is a good sign that the EU is begining to fray at the edges.... or maybe just at the fringes, but either way this guy hasn’t said anything that isn’t factual. Well, I’m not sure that the Belgians are child molesters -- but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt!
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#18  "Sorry, I though you said something a few days ago about the murder of members of minorities being more serious than that of members of the majority group. " No, I'm pretty sure that I have never ever said anything like that whatsoever.

Here's what you wrote:

Motivation always matters in passing a sentence... ... Murder for reasons of hate towards an entire group causes a climate of fear for that entire group. The offense is worse because it's directed against an entire segment of the population. And it hurts society as a whole.

In response to this Rantburg post regarding US hate murders post-9-11. To me, this suggests that you believe that murder of a minority member is a "worse offence" than that of a random person who cannot be identified with a minority. If that's not what you meant, I'd like you to clarify, please.

Tell me why didn't *you* join in the commentary of that article.

I posted that article. I'd have thought my observation "Justice's blindfold slips in Greece" would give away the fact that I was appalled by the judge's display of partiality.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-10-24 8:02:09 PM  

#17  "Sorry, I though you said something a few days ago about the murder of members of minorities being more serious than that of members of the majority group. "

No, I'm pretty sure that I have never ever said anything like that whatsoever.

"I thought you might be outraged that this judge appears to be favouring Greek nationalists."

I was outraged. Any reason that I should be forced to express in this forum every little thing that outrages me?

You must be outraged also, did you feel the need to express it? I don't see your commentary in the article below either. I guess that means you must approve what the judge did.

Tell me why didn't *you* join in the commentary of that article.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2003-10-24 4:53:59 PM  

#16  Sorry, I though you said something a few days ago about the murder of members of minorities being more serious than that of members of the majority group. Are British, US, Turkish ex-pats not minority groups in Greece? I thought you might be outraged that this judge appears to be favouring Greek nationalists. Apparently not. Guess some minorities are more important to you than others?

I didn't regard it as an ethnic problem. You did.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-10-24 9:22:22 AM  

#15  No, I'm not. Any particular reason that I should?

Other than the nationalistic madness you hold that demands I am responsible for the actions of my whole ethnic group?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2003-10-24 8:54:27 AM  

#14  Not going to join in the depraved commentary on the article below this one, Aris?
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-10-24 4:33:22 AM  

#13  Masochism.

And I can still enjoy Rantburg as a collection of articles about the "War on Terror", ignoring the often depraved commentary that accompany them.

And on matters that don't concern the EU there's the occasional half-decent discussion. (On matters that concern it... Well, you people hate the EU with as much braindead hatred as the Communist Party of Greece hates both the EU and the US. And using pretty much the same arguments. Actually scratch that, you are using even more braindead arguments. Even the communists haven't yet accused the EU of wanting to make paedophilia as easy as possible. Factual didn't you call it, and none of the rest of you cared to dispute this "factual" comment? And that bastard, Atomic Conspiracy, who used the phrase "Franco-Aryan" axis... Nobody cared about *that* insult either, did you?)

Screw you all. And go on cheering the racist fascists with whom you share those mutual hatreds.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2003-10-23 11:28:31 PM  

#12  God Aris, your writing is so insufferably vain. If you are so above the rest of the rantburgers, why do you demean yourself by coming here?
Posted by: B   2003-10-23 10:43:53 PM  

#11  Hmm... if they are living in America (or the UK? Where do you live?) for almost 60 years, then I guess saying that I speak better than them must be a compliment.

Thanks. I guess.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2003-10-23 8:13:20 PM  

#10  Hi Mr. Katsaris! My next door neighbors are Mr. & Mrs. Koikos, they speak English damn near as well as you do.... they fled during the Civil War. They said it was very bad. They like my dawg Hatfield. So you got plenty of slack with this psyco Rantburger. Damn it Hatfield! Get away from the machete! Bad dawg! BTW come on over and we'll go to Tarpon Springs and get some serious seafood. Bad Dawg! Bad Hatfield! Gotta go the buzzing getting worse.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-10-23 7:53:34 PM  

#9  Belgium was the home of Mark Dutroux, a child killer and Pedophile. Just do a google search on him and you will find out more than you ever wanted to know about Belgium.
Posted by: Paul Moloney   2003-10-23 7:50:01 PM  

#8  I believe Belgium was the site...

I read that many Belgians were upset over the complacency of their officials and organized several protest marches.

Source:20,000 people marched through Bruessels on 14 February 1998, to express anger at Belgium’s lack of policy reform in the wake of a child molestation case. (Robert Wielaard, "20,000 Rally Against Belgian Gov’t," Associated Press, 15 February 1998)
Posted by: Adriane   2003-10-23 7:31:19 PM  

#7  "Either way this guy hasn’t said anything that isn’t factual"

Let us hope that you meant to write "hasn't said anything that is sane".

"I’m not actually sure what he’s talking about here,"

'Pigs' is Bossi's preferred way of referring to homosexuals so it's possible that he was accusing the European "elite" of being pro-gay rights. (Which they hopefully are IMAO.)

The whole "destroying the christian heritage of europe" rhetoric and the random references to paedophilia seem to me to confirm that guess of mine.

Btw, Let's mention some more things that Bossi, this beloved fascist of all y'all has done.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/italy/10/27/italy.racism/

Bossi also attacked the mayor of Rome, centre-left politician Francesco Rutelli, for adopting a South American child. "He should have a more solid family, with children whose origin are certain," Bossi said.

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You go Bossi, you racist bigoted little creep of a man. You'll find many similarly psychotic individuals here at Rantburg, many people eager to urge you on, as long as you rant against the EU. You won't be asked to explain your reasoning, just rant away, be imaginative with your insults and conspiracy theories. As long as you rant against the JewsEU, people here will always say that you are only speaking facts.

In short, original poster? Fuck you. Your beloved pal Bossi is all in favour of deportation and terror as long as they are aimed toward the people he doesn't like. Which mainly involves foreigners.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2003-10-23 7:24:25 PM  

#6  I don't suppose that the leaders of the Franco-Aryan Axis in Brussels expected the Italians, of all people, to get up on their hind-legs and bite back.
One of the problems with relying on prejudice and bigotry to drive the masses is that the instigators themselves can start believing it, and will therefore be blindsided when its predictions turn out to be inaccurate.
The leaders of the previous Reich, A. Hitler and H. Goering, made the same kind of mistake. They did not expect much from the soft, decadent, and racially corrupt Americans, and planned their war strategy accordingly. Both lived to regret it, though not for long.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-10-23 3:58:43 PM  

#5  The demographics of the Euro-elite have changed a great deal over the last few hundred years, but several things have remained the same:
On the record, the Euro ruling class is probably the most ruthless and devious large group of people that has ever existed. The Congo genocide, the two world wars, the rise of statist totalitarianism, and, now, the profitability of Islamo-fascist collaborationism, can all be laid solidly at the feet of the bourgeois-derived pseudo-intelligentsia that succeeded the hereditary aristocracy sometime in the late 19th century, and whose linear descendants populate the present-day Euro-state ruling class.
Another constant, one that stretches back to remote antiquity, is the exploitation and incitement of traditional peasant bigotry for political ends. The specific targets change; the "yellow peril", Masons, and "the Jews" in the past, Americans and "the Jews" today; but the ugly authoritarian spirit remains the same.
It might well have originated in the millenia long race wars of the Paleolithic era, when the ancestors of today's Euros fought the Neanderthaler enemy to extinction.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-10-23 3:50:15 PM  

#4  Yup, it was.
Posted by: rkb   2003-10-23 2:33:36 PM  

#3  I believe Belgium was the site of a major child kidnapping/slavery/pornography ring that was strangely covered up/protected by the government.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-10-23 1:29:11 PM  

#2  You're thinking of Prime Minister Berlusconi of the Italian Reform Party. Under the spooky, unstable, and (to the American mind anyhow) unfathomably complex system of Italian Parliamentary democracy, the Northern League and the Reform Party are currently running Italy under a "power sharing" arrangement. Which, considering that both parties are a little nutty, should sound bad.... until you consider the other Italian parties. Like the Communist one.
Posted by: Secret Master   2003-10-23 1:19:22 PM  

#1  The child molesters are around Albania and Czechoslovakia. It's a major underground business in that region, and they sell over seas to people( Sick f*cks ) here in the US. That's what he's talking about.

The European arrest warrent is for him, isn't it?
Posted by: Charles   2003-10-23 12:50:34 PM  

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