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Poll: U.S. Losing Grip In Iraq
2003-08-30
Americans express growing concern that things are not going well for the U.S. in Iraq. More now than at any time since the war ended think things are going badly for the U.S. there, and an increasing number see U.S. control of events there slipping away. Americans continue to support the United Nations having a lead role in Iraq.
That's interesting. It reinforces what I was saying above. But if I take my car to a mechanic, I don't think I need a poll to see whether the mechanic knows what he's doing...
Although the public expresses more concern about U.S. involvement in Iraq, and American troops continue to experience casualties — the number of American lives lost in Iraq since the war was officially declared over has now surpassed the casualties experienced during combat — the public still supports a U.S. troop presence. Only a third want U.S. troops brought back home.
We're in it, we've said what we were going to do, now we can't back out. Next time we take a regime apart, though, I think it would be a good idea to just get the hell out and let the locals pick up the pieces...
As they have for many months, Americans support a multilateral approach to rebuilding and governing Iraq, and that support has grown in this poll. 69% of Americans think the United Nations, and not the United States, should have the lead responsibility for setting up a new government in Iraq, even more than felt that way last April. 25% want the U.S. to be responsible for building an Iraqi government.
Worst of all possible ideas. The UN gave us Ein el-Hellhole and Congo. And their performance in Rwanda was... ummm... not stellar.
Democrats are strongly supportive of this multilateral approach; 83% want the United Nations to have the lead role in Iraq. A smaller majority of Republicans (56%) also prefers the U.N. to lead the government rebuilding effort. The desire for U.N. involvement may be fueled by the growing perception that the U.S. is having difficulty in Iraq. Nearly half of Americans now think things are going badly for the U.S. in Iraq. That number has continued its rise since early last month.
The opinions of people who aren't paying attention on a subject for which specialized knowledge is needed mean nothing. What a waste of time and money.
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#10  Tom

You're right. Phone polling is no longer random. In fact it is a tainted sample, regardless of the number of calls.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-8-30 8:47:10 PM  

#9  "Americans continue to support the United Nations having a lead role in Iraq." Well, as goats staked out to draw in the tiger... No, sorry, I welcome the involvement of the UN and its agencies only under US/Coalition command, not vice-versa, which probably agrees with the actual words but not the implications of this statement.

"69% of Americans think the United Nations, and not the United States, should have the lead responsibility for setting up a new government in Iraq, even more than felt that way last April." That's what I most fear, and I hope we do not go back to making policy by polls - especially polls polluted by inadequate coverage of the situation.

"The desire for U.N. involvement may be fueled by the growing perception that the U.S. is having difficulty in Iraq. Nearly half of Americans now think things are going badly for the U.S. in Iraq." And things are just spiffy for the UN there? Those 'perceptions' are fed by bubbleheads who read news scripts, rather than read news.
Posted by: John Anderson   2003-8-30 4:21:47 PM  

#8  Birmingham, Alabama.

There's a reason that CBS has been losing viewers during the evening news hours. That and every Democratic poll is either CNN or CBS.
Posted by: Charles   2003-8-30 2:03:38 PM  

#7  I wouldn't believe anything a CBS 'poll' said. Their bias is so bad they can't even report good news about anything, for fear of "helping" Bush get re-elected. They not only slant the news, I personally believe that occasionally they even make it up out of thin air in order to promote their personal leftist agenda. This particular poll comes just after another which showed strong continued support for current US efforts, conducted by a marketing research firm in Birmingham, Alabama. Who you gonna believe???
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-8-30 1:22:12 PM  

#6  Terrific! It's a $7 paperback reprinted in 1993 and on their website.
Posted by: Tom   2003-8-30 1:05:08 PM  

#5  How to Lie with Statistics is in my Barnes & Noble.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-8-30 12:51:00 PM  

#4  69% of Americans think the United Nations, and not the United States, should have the lead responsibility for setting up a new government in Iraq...

You mean the same UN that cuts and runs as soon as the shit hits the fan? That wants to run the show from Amman? That's so naive that they can't believe that someone would actually target them? That UN, right?
Posted by: tu3031   2003-8-30 12:48:42 PM  

#3  A telephone poll of a "random sample" of 930 adults -- yeah, right. That's 930 adults who will answer the phone and be polled -- not necessarily representative of anything except people who don't hang up on pollsters and telemarketers. Certainly not representative of informed adults who have considered the issues.

Reminds me of one of my favorite books: "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff. W. W. Norton & Company, New York, 1954. Probably out of print, but if so it's a damned shame.
Posted by: Tom   2003-8-30 12:46:57 PM  

#2  As usual, the questions are probably slanted in a way that emphasizes what the pollsters feel are the benefits of UN administration. If you look at Hollywood portrayals of UN actions, you will find that these are uniformly positive. It's not surprising that respondents would be in favor of a UN role. As usual, we'll have to wait for the administration to finish its late summer deliberations and come out swinging once Bush returns to DC.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2003-8-30 12:45:44 PM  

#1  CBS news? they want a war that lasts from one Nielsen ratings period to another, and that's it...the house that Cronkite built, and Gunga Dan resides in, has no stomach for real national security
Posted by: Frank G   2003-8-30 12:35:43 PM  

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