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| 2003-08-16 | |
| Don’t know if this was news elsewhere, but here in San diego, it was big. A controversial order that largely barred 1,600 San Diego-based Border Patrol agents from stopping suspected illegal immigrants on city streets was rescinded yesterday by officials in Washington, D.C. The directive, issued in an Aug. 8 memo from San Diego sector chief William T. Veal, had provoked widespread fury among the agents and touched off a public outcry after the memo was leaked to the media earlier this week. leaked by outraged agents Yesterday’s announcement was made from the office of Robert Bonner, commissioner of the U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection. A review of the memo "determined that it was an overly broad and restrictive statement of Border Patrol policy in the San Diego sector," bureau spokeswoman Gloria Chavez said. "Commissioner Bonner has directed that the memorandum of Aug. 8 be rescinded." The directive grew out of an Aug. 2 incident in which a illegal alien Mexican family of five en route to the Mexican Consulate in San Diego’s Little Italy neighborhood was stopped and arrested by Border Patrol agents within a block of their destination. They were sent back to Mexico within hours. The agents said they acted legally, but the consulate filed a formal complaint with the Border Patrol the same day. Veal’s memo went to Border Patrol stations countywide six days later. "We have a continuing obligation to prevent any public perception that the Border Patrol may be conducting ’neighborhood sweeps,’ " the memo read. "The operational priorities of the San Diego sector are geared toward maximum containment at the border." so, if you sneak in, it’s free and clear, and Gov. Davis will issue you a drivers’ license too! Under the directive, agents were barred from "any interior enforcement or city patrol operations in or near residential areas or places of employment." They were, however, allowed to check public transportation such as buses and trolleys, but only at stations or aboard the vehicles. Yesterday, calls to Veal’s office were referred to Customs and Border Protection officials in Washington. His ass should be fired - he basically was granting sovereign territorial rights to the Mexicans in any area they decided to get "outraged" about. "Dickhead" is too polite a word to describe this PC asshat Bonner has directed Border Patrol chief Gustavo de la Viña to conduct a nationwide review of Border Patrol policies governing the authority — or lack thereof — of its agents to enforce immigration law in areas outside the immediate border. Many of those policies were a legacy of the old Immigration and Naturalization Service, which had overseen the Border Patrol, Chavez said. In March, the INS and 21 other federal agencies were folded into the Department of Homeland Security. "We are the guardians of our nation’s borders," Chavez said. "We recognize that preventing the entry of illegal aliens is necessary for the protection and safety of our citizens. Commissioner Bonner wants the Border Patrol agents in the field, the men and women risking their lives to ensure the safety of our nation, to know that he supports them and appreciates them for protecting the homeland." Reaction among agents to yesterday’s developments was positive. "We have received no formal word that it’s been rescinded," said Agent Joe Dassaro, president of Local 1613. "A lot of people don’t believe it’s true. They think it’ll remain as some sort of unwritten policy." Still, Dassaro was pleased by the news. "The important thing is, it sends a message to the smugglers and those people who would do our country harm that we will pursue them," he said. Dassaro credited pressure both from his union and angry residents, as well as media exposure, for getting the directive killed. "The average citizen out there is outraged by this policy," he said. The policy amounted to a de facto amnesty for illegal immigrants, he said. "This was being portrayed in the Mexican press as the law of the land," Dassaro said. "We were hearing things about illegal aliens (making obscene gestures) to our agents, challenging them in places where they hadn’t been challenged before." He was just as upbeat about the mandated review of Border Patrol procedures. "Finally, somebody is getting on board and realizing we need to review these policies," Dassaro said. "This could be the break we need for the American people in terms of security."
All it will take to really seal the borders is a terror attack perpetrated by someone sneaking in along the Mexico border. Then the Army will be deployed even with all the hue and cry from "immigrant advocates"....bastards | |
| Posted by:Frank G |
| #9 But I think this mass invasion is tolerated for the cheap labor which = business interests which = Republicans. But I think this mass invasion is tolerated for the illegal votes which = liberal majorities which = Democrats. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2003-8-16 11:46:15 PM |
| #8 As someone who has spent 4+ of the last 10 years as the foreigner I can state categorically that language is far and away the key component for success or failure - for the visitor / immigrant. Segregation, education, economics, socialization - all of them turn on the success or failure to speak the native language adequately. It is wearing on both parties to try to communicate when each lacks the other's language. Soon you just stop trying because the success rate is so low and the disappointment due to miscommunication is so high. Even exceedingly gracious hosts, such as the Thais, tire of it. Obviously, it is the visitor who should learn the host country's language. Expecting millions of natives to accommodate teh relatively few visitors / immigrants is backasswards and asinine. It's expensive for the natives in the short-term - and incredibly costly to the non-native in the long-term. Hey, baby, I GET it: Pohm poot pasah-Thai nit noy - rian sha-sha. Mai mee pahn hah. Failure to integrate in large numbers is eventually fatal to the host. Still considering language as key, these closed communities are precisely like tumors. In affluent countries, such as the US, they send money out - back "home" - and invest little or nothing. They are parasitic - and non-contributing - not buying homes, paying real estate taxes, school taxes, hospital district taxes - the panoply of services they DO consume. Work the numbers... if a million CA Mexican immigrant families are wiring an avg of $100 a month back to Mexico... You've lost that important 4-5x rollover for every $ too... But let's not just pick on Mexico - there are probably 40-50 other groups in significant numbers who also send greenbacks home. This is a significant loss - and only the easiest economic fallout example from the failure to integrate - and it turns on language. Other aspects have their consequences, too. The failure to integrate socially, again turning on language now combined with the economics, leads to: slums, barrios, gangs, chronic unemployment, chronic under-employment, chronic victimization, and chronic victimizing (crime, protection rackets, etc) are examples. It all starts with language. If you can have a conversation with someone, they become real - not just another foreign face. They become peers, not just another underling or hired help. They become friends, not just another threat to your job, your school / healthcare / judicial / penal / political systems, your family / children - everything you work hard for - and a burden through higher taxes. Those who refuse to integrate should not be welcome. Competency tests should be required for anything longer than a visitor's visa. And INS needs to actually DO what it was chartered to do, which we pay for, in spite of their non-performance. The rainbow and diversity BS is a total load of shit. Lines between people are friction points and leverage points for asshats like Louis Farrakhan and David Duke and Jesse Jackson. Anything about a person which was not within his control is irrelevant (race, gender, country of origin, handicaps, etc). We should, however, hold everyone, native and immigrant alike, responsible for everything that is within his control - and competency in language, the pivot for success or failure in a society, is within each person's control. Lessee is that 2 cents worth? No? You want change? Ha! Phuck off! ;-> |
| Posted by: .com 2003-8-16 5:15:44 PM |
| #7 Right on, Frank. Another third world, right in our laps. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2003-8-16 3:56:20 PM |
| #6 NMM, pretty close to correct on both - the business ends want the cheap labor regardless of cost to America's society. The Dems/unions want the organizable labor and easy votes and pander to the balkanization. The biggest problem with the mexican immigration is the inability/refusal to integrate. Speaking spanish at home is cool, requiring it to be spoken at public offices, et al because they won't learn english is not, IMHO. This is the same issue with segregation by muslims. Staying in cloistered little communities without integrating/adopting our societal goals and habits will eventually be the downfall of America or these groups, or both, sad to say. In addition, the level of education in most of the mexican/central american immigrants is miniscule, and they commonly drop out of school at early ages, creating a poor uneducated class with little hope of progress. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2003-8-16 11:48:01 AM |
| #5 Democrats allow it for the demographics--and I don't like THAT either |
| Posted by: Not Mike Moore 2003-8-16 11:36:22 AM |
| #4 The newspaper headline makes it sound like the border agents have a new power to arrest illegals, when in fact thy've had this power all along, up until 10 days ago. Kinda misleading. |
| Posted by: Uncle Joe 2003-8-16 11:33:34 AM |
| #3 If it all = Republicans, why does it happen when Democrats are in power, too? |
| Posted by: Uncle Joe 2003-8-16 11:30:30 AM |
| #2 Yeah G*d knows no Mexicans got into California when Pete Wilson was governor! But I think this mass invasion is tolerated for the cheap labor which = business interests which = Republicans. I don't see this administration doing anything about the illegals already here. |
| Posted by: Not Mike Moore 2003-8-16 11:24:43 AM |
| #1 oops - as you may have guessed: "His ass should be fired - he basically was granting sovereign territorial rights to the Mexicans in any area they decided to get "outraged" about." was my comment and should've been hi-lited LOL |
| Posted by: Frank G 2003-8-16 10:22:48 AM |