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Middle East
Abbas admits Arafat is real leader
2003-07-27
"I'm just a figurehead. But you knew that, didn't you?"
Palestinian prime minister Mahmud Abbas said in an interview he could not govern independently of Yasser Arafat. "He is the leader of the Palestinian people," Abbas told Newsweek. "I cannot be independent." The interview appeared as Abbas wrapped up a series of meetings with US officials in Washington on the implementation of the so-called "road map" to Mideast peace, which would found a Palestinian state by 2005. US President George W Bush gave Abbas a warm welcome, but pointedly did not invite Arafat, whom Washington sees as tainted by links to terrorism. Bush did call Israel's security fence along its West Bank border "a problem," an assessment Abbas shared. "It is an uncivilised wall," Abbas told the news weekly.
Slightly different phrasing...
Abbas also repeated his response to the Bush administration's request to dismantle Hamas and Islamic Jihad, despite the unilateral ceasefire they and other radical groups declared on June 29. "Why should we go to civil war against our own people?"
"They'd kill us all. Those people are crazy!"
Even if these groups hold to the belief that Israel has no right to exist, Abbas said that, as long as they do not engage in violence, the radicals can "keep their slogans". "I believe that if [Israel can be confined] within the 1967 borders, [Hamas] will live with it and will accept it. It's only 22 per cent of the historical Palestinian territory," he said in the issue of Newsweek that appears on news stands on Monday. "We are not going to miss this opportunity," Abbas said of the road map. "We are going to grasp this opportunity."
If so, that'll be a first. To date, the Paleos have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity...
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#4  We would be much better off if we took any aid to the Paleos ($100 mil lately?) and bought more concrete for the friggin wall. Can't you hear the wails and gnashing of teeth once the Paleos are left to their own "society" without any Israelis to kill or blame for their own squalor? It'll be a giant ain-el-hilweh. The UN and NGO's will be like pigs in shit...literally
Posted by: Frank G   2003-7-27 11:32:22 AM  

#3  "It is an uncivilised wall," Abbas told the news weekly.

Suicide/murder bombings are even less civilized.

"Why should we go to civil war against our own people?"

In other words, "We will not live up to our end of the agreement".

"I believe that if [Israel can be confined] within the 1967 borders, [Hamas] will live with it and will accept it. It's only 22 per cent of the historical Palestinian territory," he said in the issue of Newsweek that appears on news stands on Monday.

Sorry, but it isn't Israel that needs to be "confined".
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2003-7-27 4:17:34 AM  

#2  "Why should we go to civil war against our own people?"
Uh, because you agreed to do so when you accepted the "roadmap" to peace? DOH! Classic Arab duplicity and selectivity... Lying motherfuckers.

Public Service Information...

Here's the text of the "roadmap" to peace. For reference, here's the text of the "hudna" agreements of Hamas, Fatah, and Islamic Jihad (Al Aqsa, a renegade (???) component of Fatah, refused to sign either or write their own) that's supposed to get the roadmap off the ground and help the PA fulfill the Phase I Security requirements placed upon it.

Key Observations:
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1) The borders will be established as those existing on Sept 28, 2000 - not 1967 borders. (Phase I Introduction)
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2) The Phase I Security section has a number of requirements - judge for yourself how GOI (Govt of Israel) and the PA are doing, thusfar - and who's making a bona-fide effort vs lip service and obfuscation.
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3) Phase I Palestinian Institution Building - other than appointing PM Abbas / Mazen / whatever, nothing in this section appears to be underway. I guess the Pals know something some of us don't seem to get: this is a joke.
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4) There is no mention, zero, zip, nada, of requiring Israel to release any prisoners, much less all as demanded by the "hudna" linked above.
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5) The only GOI Phase I requirement that is not being fulfilled in its entirety, thusfar, is the Settlements section.

This puppy is doomed for the usual reason which Fred points out: "To date, the Paleos have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity..."

Here's a link to a FrontPage Symposium which poses the question Roadmap To What? (well put, IMHO) which you may find of interest.
R.I.P. - Q.E.D.
Posted by: PD   2003-7-27 3:12:04 AM  

#1   It's only 22 per cent of the historical Palestinian territory ...

My math might be off, but pre-1967 Israel is a lot bigger than the West Bank and Gaza. Add it all up and it isn't 100% of any hysterical "historical" Palestine, unless you ... include Jordan. Hmmmm, wonder if a message is being sent?
Posted by: Steve White   2003-7-27 12:41:47 AM  

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