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Iraq
Shia clergy denounce US troop presence
2003-04-20
What part of "conquered people" don't you understand?
A cleric at one of Shia Islam’s holiest shrines in the Iraqi city Karbala denounced the presence of US troops in the country during Friday prayers, saying it amounted to imperialism by “unbelievers.”
Oh, horrors! Unbelievers! Oh, hold me, Fatimah!
“We reject this foreign occupation, which is a new imperialism. We don’t want it anymore,” Sheikh Kaazem Al-Abahadi Al-Nasari told thousands of Muslim faithful at the mausoleum of Imam Hussein, revered by the Shias and the grandson of the Prophet Mohammad. We don’t need the Americans. They’re here to control our oil. They’re unbelievers, but as for us, we have the power of mouth faith.”
He also didn't believe the Merkins and the Brits were going to demolish Sammy's regime in three weeks. And no doubt Mr. Imam could have easily done so himself, without our help — he just didn't get around to it...
Friday prayers resumed at this sacred site last week for the first time since May 2002 after being banned by deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, fearful of Shia opposition to his rule. Iraq’s 25- million strong community is 60 percent Shia and were violently repressed and politically not represented under Hussein.
That's why they rose up in their wrath and threw him out, by Gawd! But then those Merkins and Brits came in and ruined everything...
The Shias are flexing their collective muscle for the first time in decades. Sheikh Nasri denounced “those politicians who are coming back to Iraq supported by the Americans and British, who given the opportunity would only obey American orders.” His speech may have been a veiled jab at Ahmad Chalabi, who bills himself as a secular Shia, and reportedly a Pentagon favorite for leading Iraq. Chalabi, who left Iraq in 1958 and returned in recent months, said Friday he had no plans for running the country.
"We don't need nobody from outside the country. Except maybe from Iran. They understand us..."
Spirits were also high in the Shia shantytown in Baghdad were the Al-Hikma mosque held the first Friday prayers since 1999 riots sparked by the assassination of a prominent cleric Mohammad Sadeq Sadr. Some 50,000 people jammed the streets of Al-Sadr City, formerly known as Saddam City, patrolled by Kalashnikov-wielding guards.
Wonder who they were, and what they were guarding against?
Hundreds of thousands poured out of mosques and demonstrated against Washington’s presence. The sermons around the city offered the first clear reaction among Muslim clergy to the three-week war and US occupation. At the Al-Hikma mosque Sheikh Mohammad Fartusi said the Shia would not accept a brand of democracy “that allows Iraqis to say what they want but gives them no say in their destiny. This form of government would be worse than Saddam Hussein.”
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#7  At 60% of the pop. they can generate numbers. But they are unable to cooperate except on the grand scale (such as generic hate targets: can you say, "Great Satan?") as they compete with each other for followers. Iran is the key: does it implode before it gains nukes or the means to mfg them? Will we sit calmy by while this occurs? These are the only Shia aspects that are actually worrisome beyond the usual hollering and arm waving.
Posted by: PD   2003-04-21 07:13:01  

#6  "Hundreds of thousands poured out of mosques and demonstrated against Washington’s presence"

Western sources have been giving numbers of 10,000 to 30,000 for Fridays demos. And Wapo indicates it was mainly Sunnis. Al Jazeera is unreliable, but thats a big discrepancy.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2003-04-20 22:54:17  

#5  They need to be invited to a reception to receive a brief indoctrination about how best to get us to leave in a timely manner.

Makes me think of Laos' greatest king, Khun Borom Rajathiraj. He invited all the kinglets of the feuding Tai tribes who were giving him lip for a big peace conference. When he got them all in one place, he just poisoned them.
Posted by: Fred   2003-04-20 19:02:24  

#4  Round up his immediate family and put them all in one of saddams old cells (cramped style please). Give them 15 minutes to decide whether or not they want to fully and without condition support the US occupation.

If its a no, they can stay in jail forever.

Posted by: flash91   2003-04-20 18:31:20  

#3  I'm sure some of the crap these guys are spewing is coming directly from Iran. Iran has a serious problem with us being in both Iraq and Afghanistan - it's called "Legitimate fear of being next". Perhaps we should even partially support the Shia muslim imams and their desire to have us leave - by going east... Naaah, they'd complain about that, too.

PERSONAL NOTE TO JOHNNY: Put a second shift on at the rope factory, we may need it.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-04-20 14:04:43  

#2  Muslim clerics have a lot to learn. They need to be invited to a reception to receive a brief indoctrination about how best to get us to leave in a timely manner. So far, they definitely don't get it. I'd be tempted to send a few of the more vocal ones on temporary holiday to Gitmo.
Posted by: Tom   2003-04-20 13:07:42  

#1  "Sure, Saddam was a torturing, murdering bastard who liked to rape our women in front of us. But he was OURS! Ok, sort of ours, since he tried to kill Shias just for breathing.....At least he didn't try to make us govern ourselves and be responsible!"
Posted by: Baba Yaga   2003-04-20 11:32:25  

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