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Iraq
EU Threat To Iraq Reconstruction
2003-03-12
European Union could withhold help in rebuilding Iraq after a war if the conflict did not have U.N. approval, a senior EU commissioner has said. Chris Patten, EU commissioner
former Hong Kong administrator and all around arrogant ass
for external relations, warned on Wednesday that without proper authority the EU might find it difficult to release cash from its external relations budget.
As opposed to the funds they release to Arafat's PA which have never seen the light of day other than Swiss and French bank accounts for the Arafat thugs
The Iraq crisis has seen disagreements at the EU similar to those at NATO and the United Nations and has exposed the difficulties for the bloc in developing common foreign policies. On one side is France and Germany, which are leading the anti-war campaign and are often considered the driving force of EU development
riggghhhtt - remember the postings regarding Germany's sick economy?.
On the other is Britain and Spain, which are backing the U.S. hardline stance against Iraq at the U.N. Security Council. Patten told the EU parliament in Strasbourg: "It will be very difficult in any circumstances to launch massive new programs in Iraq and in the neighborhood of Iraq.
Especially when the 'Merkins won't let us in
"But it will be that much more difficult for the EU to cooperate fully and on a large scale also in the longer-term reconstruction process if events unfold without proper U.N. cover and if the member states remain divided.
Proper U.N. ass-covering should have nothing to do with the EU's "cooperation"
"If it comes to war, it will be very much easier to persuade you to be generous if there is no dispute about the legitimacy of the military action that has taken place; about the new political order that emerges thereafter; or about who is in charge of the reconstruction process." The EU already has set aside 15 million euros for aid programs in and around Iraq, but Patten said extra cash may be needed from the budget's emergency reserve.
"We've already expended our Palestinean Refugee Camp Human Rights Explosives Budget™"
In a debate marked by French and Shroeder hostility to war against Iraq, especially without U.N. legitimacy, Patten said he was not issuing a threat of non-cooperation with the United States but simply making an observation of fact. "It is in the interests of the whole world that power should be constrained by global rules, and used only with international agreement,
right America? Why don't you listen to Nobel Peace Prize Winner, former President Jimmy Carter?.
What other source of international legitimacy but the U.N. exists for military intervention?"
Ummm the U.S. 3rd Armored?
Patten also challenged U.S. President George W. Bush's argument that a war to overthrow Iraqi President Saddam Hussein would combat terrorism and spread democracy in the Middle East. "As a general rule, are wars not more likely to recruit terrorists than to deter them?
Not if the combatants die horrible, smoking deaths
It is hard to build communism democracy at the barrel of a gun, when history suggests it is more usually the product of long internal development in a society," he said.

Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou, whose country holds the EU's rotating presidency, said the Iraq crisis had caused serious tensions in U.S.-EU relations and posed a danger to multilateral diplomacy. He said: "We fully support U.N. endeavors. The European Union — the 15 (member states) and indeed the 28 (including 13 candidate countries) — have reaffirmed their belief in the important role which falls to the United Nations. "This is clearly a key element when it comes to any future decisions which are taken in the name of the international community."
Posted by:Frank G

#4  15 million Euros isn't jack s--t when it comes to right-now heavy-duty refugees and human crises which we are going to face in Iraq. Also, Mr. Rotating President Papandreou thinks that he has the 13 candidate countries for the EU in his poke. I would not count them in yet, Georgie boy. Patrick Phillips' comments are right on. Iraq has the resources to get things rebuilt right and big a big middle east player, like she rightly should. She does not need the EUniks, but she will have her work cut out to build a workable political system.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-03-12 16:49:01  

#3  U.N. legitimacy
What an oxymoron.

He said: "We fully support U.N. endeavors. The European Union -- the 15 (member states) and indeed the 28 (including 13 candidate countries) -- have reaffirmed their belief in the important role which falls to the United Nations.

Of course the ringleaders of this little circle-jerk, France and Germany, wouldn't be behind this tripe would they? Seeing as how tweaking the nose of Uncle Sam through the UN is the only power they now possess.

"If it comes to war, it will be very much easier to persuade you to be generous if there is no dispute about the legitimac of the military action that has taken place; about the new political order that emerges thereafter; or about who is in charge of the reconstruction process."

1)Legitimacy: UN Resolution 687 and the 17 others that followed it, stupid.
2)New political order: finally freedom for a brutalized populace that will remember you Euro-weiners didn't have the balls to stand up for what is right.
3)Who is in charge of the reconstruction process: Is he serious? Should I be laughing.

As far as the EU being generous, the only thing they have been genourous with so far is their ignorance, short memories, and utter stupidity.

Sorry guys, looks like it's going to be UK, US, and other allied country businesses getting the fat contracts for rebuilding.
Posted by: grilllmaster Celissa   2003-03-12 15:53:09  

#2  That's not just an empty threat, but a stupidly empty threat. Iraq is a very wealth country thanks to it's oil reserves. Some seed money and technical expertise will be required from us, but ultimately Iraq is wealthy enough to rebuild itself.
Posted by: Patrick Phillips   2003-03-12 15:47:00  

#1  "It is hard to build democracy at the barrel of a gun, when history suggests it is more usually the product of long internal development in a society."
I missed something...
Which democracy was not built at gunpoint?
India is the only one I can think of.
They had such a numeric advantage they didn't need guns.

I suppose he's forgotten the tens of millions who died bringing about the current French and German democracies.
Posted by: Dishman   2003-03-12 15:42:46  

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