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Terror Networks
HE’LL SPILL HIS GUTS, OR ELSE
2003-03-06
A CIA team will use "all appropriate measures" to convince the just-captured mastermind of the 9/11 attacks to talk — including dangling freedom for his two young sons, who are in U.S. custody. Law-enforcement sources told The Post that the CIA has had the 7- and 9-year- old sons of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in custody since September, and plans to use them as leverage to get the No. 3 man in al Qaeda to disclose Osama bin Laden's whereabouts and details of future terror operations. Mohammed, arrested Saturday in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, has undergone three days of questioning by the same team of CIA and FBI agents who have handled other high-profile terror war detainees.
FoxNews this morning said he was doing the canary thing — but of course we're going to say that, even if he chews his tongue off rather than talk...
Sources said the English-speaking Mohammed has refused to cooperate with interrogators — and instead has spent hours in a trance-like state, chanting passages from the Koran. Authorities also fear Mohammed will try to kill himself, and have put him on a 24-hour suicide watch at the military base where he's being held overseas.
It would appear we have conflicting stories on this...
But law-enforcement officials are convinced that he will eventually talk - just as diehard al Qaeda kingpins Abu Zubaydah and Ramzi Binalshibh did under interrogation.

The United States has made it a practice to take some high-profile terror detainees from Pakistan and Afghanistan to Arab countries like Jordan, Egypt and Morocco for interrogation. "We don't kick the s- - - out of them. Some of our friends do, but we don't do that," said one former counterterrorism official. "These guys are unbelievably cocky. They believe God is on their side. So they believe even though they've been captured, ultimately, they're going to prevail."

U.S. officials deny torturing any captives. In Mohammed's case, CIA agents plan to use "all appropriate means," including leveraging freedom for his two young boys. Those boys were taken in the same raid last Sept. 11 in Karachi that netted Binalshibh, as well as other members of his family in Kuwait and Pakistan, sources said. The CIA and FBI interrogation teams will also try to get him to open up with sleep deprivation. "You bring him in a room and start asking questions. You keep him standing. Then you start building rewards. If you cooperate, if you start talking to us, you get to lie down, you get to take a nap," said former CIA counterterrorism officer Larry Johnson.

Johnson said he doubts Mohammed will be able to keep his Koran-athon going very long under that kind of pressure. "Let's look at this guy's life. On one hand, he's this devout Muslim. On the other hand, he's chasing women around the world," Johnson said. Johnson was referring to testimony in a criminal case in the Philippines that Mohammed and his nephew, World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef, acted like playboys.
Posted by:ISHMAIL

#7  Capsu78 - sounds familiar - I was an SAE at San Diego State, and during initiation weekend, the only really bad thing that happened to the pledges was sleep deprivation, and that was enough, they were putty
Posted by: Frank G   2003-03-06 14:34:36  

#6  Many of these tactics have been refined in Fraternity environments during the 1970's as well... until the Dean Wormer's of the world forced the change away from "Hell Week" to "Cupcake group hug sessions"... I was ready for "Greek Jihad" after 3 days and nights of Hell week...
Posted by: capsu78   2003-03-06 12:18:48  

#5  I agree with DS. If you've ever been through 60+ hours of enforced sleep deprivation, then you'd know what he's talking about. The hallucinations, the sudden mood swings, the feelings of utter hopelessness make a man pretty easy to break. I've seen some break without any outside pressure -- just the sleep deprivation. It's a frightening thing to watch a guy you know and like in an infantile state, crawling on the floor and crying like a baby.

The Soviets tried drugs and found that the conveyor (as it is called in the Gulag Archipelago) was more effective. Solzhenitsyn states that somewhere in the high ninety percent of all prisoners broke after 50-60 hours of sleep deprivation. The remainder were either psychotic already or underwent a psychotic break with reality during the process.
Posted by: 11A5S   2003-03-06 11:01:21  

#4  no chemicals are involved.

anyway as for the mind raping scenerio, pharmeceutically forcing him to talk absolves him of responsibility and thus guilt.

However, the things used "torture lite" will do the trick. I would like to make clear though that torture lite is little different to what we subject our own people during the SERE course. Though, admittedly, that is a motherf*cker of a thing to go through.

When you actually here someone "break" and start talking, especially talib types, they tend to switch languages.

Most of these guys are multilingual, but the moment they give up and are shattered they begin sobbing in their mother's tounge.

it's pretty chilling to watch.

-DS
"the horns hold up the halo."
Posted by: DeviantSaint   2003-03-06 09:20:31  

#3  I think the only thing they have to do is to provide him with a mirror in his cell.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-03-06 08:11:19  

#2  They'll do none of these things. They'll shoot him full of some high-tech pentothal derivative, rape his mind for everything he knows, and dump him, shattered and burned, into some military cell, there to ponder the enormity of his forced betrayal until somebody in authority decides to put him out of his misery, hopefully years from now.
Posted by: jrosevear   2003-03-06 06:22:34  

#1  according to 'The War on Sacred Terror'(written by former NSC staffers Daniel Benjamin & Stephen Simon - great book), terrorists on Jihadi missions are supposed to act as playboys, appearing to drink alcohol, and be inappropriate with women as a cover for Islam, so as not to bring Islam into disrepute.

A good leverage stick would be to threaten Khalid with educating his sons in a Jewish school (hee hee), and teaching them critical thinking skills, argument evaluation and skepticism.

Once they get some good western secularism into them, once their brains start working independantly, they'll never be able to become devout learn-by-rote indoctrinated Muslims again.

Threaten Khalid that they will get ham sandwiches every day and that all their teachers will be women none of whom will wear purdah.
Posted by: anon   2003-03-06 04:07:22  

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